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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Bob.

I have a final wee question for Jim Phillips. From your research, Jim, and from the people you have spoken to and the work that you have done, what is your view of how the justice system functioned? In your view, was it fair? Did it deal with the situation appropriately, or were there significant issues with the justice system through all of it?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Tom, you spoke about it being the police’s role to protect the rights of people who are going about their business. Miners and striking miners were going about their business. Will you give us more of a flavour of when violence occurred? What were the flash points? You talked about trade unionists leading from the front. We have all seen the pretty horrific video footage of some of the violence that happened on picket lines. Will you give us more of a sense of how those incidents arose?

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you both for your helpful responses.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for laying that out so clearly. I will leave it there.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Yes.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Good morning and thank you for being here. This morning, we have heard about challenges and accusations of collusion and political interference in policing, and I hear clearly your refutations of that. We have also heard—and we know from some of the narrative around it—about the media being quite pliant. However, something that I am not sure has previously come out for many people is the disproportionate impact of the strikes on Scottish mining communities compared with those elsewhere. More Scottish miners were arrested and more of them lost their jobs than those elsewhere. I want to explore how some of that might have arisen.

When you were sent to police the picket lines, how were the miners described to you? What were you told about them? What orders did you receive? Were you told what the operational outcome of the policing procedure should be?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. Thank you.

Tom, we have heard in evidence this morning that it appeared that certain individuals were targeted. I take on board what Jim McBrierty said about miners coming from elsewhere to join picket lines, which was often the flash point. Were you aware of any specific targeting of individuals? It seems as though active trade unionists were targeted more than others. Was there any operational decision or discussions around that focus of police activity?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that answer. While you were speaking, I was wondering about connections. You said that the National Manufacturing Institute Scotland is really valuable. What are the interactions and relationships with not just further education but higher education? I am aware that quite a lot of university resource is going into innovation. Universities are bringing in partners from around the UK and, actually, around the world to focus on that. Are there structures or facilities that we could think about to ensure that we bring people together in an effective way?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. I ask Keith Ridgway the same questions about innovation, resilience and what we need to support the technologies that we are talking about.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful.