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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

Okay. Thank you. I will leave it there for now.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

I have a question on a different topic. We have had some discussion today and previously about the criminal offences elements. Engender’s submission makes specific reference to trying to ensure in the bill that making a false declaration is a criminal offence, as with other statutory self-declarations. That law already exists.

Engender’s submission also expresses concern about criminalising people who choose to detransition. Will Catherine Murphy say a little more about that and about how we can ensure that we are not unintentionally criminalising people who take a decision that turns out to be the wrong one further down the line?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

I would like to bring in Naomi McAuliffe on that and on whether Amnesty has examples or evidence from elsewhere where self-identification is part of the gender recognition process. Have significant numbers of people detransitioned? What have the support processes been, and what issues do we need to consider, given that, as Catherine Murphy said, the numbers are very small? They are lower than the number of people who choose to get divorced, for example.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

Naomi, in relation to some of the issues around gender dysphoria, is there any need for the kind of medical gatekeeping that we heard about this morning?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

Catherine, we have heard from previous witnesses that not all trans people will have gender dysphoria and that it is not a feature of all trans people’s experiences of their identity. In Engender’s policy and advocacy work, have there been discussions or have you engaged with people who have had a clear problematic relationship with medicalisation and with maintaining such a diagnosis and the psychiatric assessments that go along with it in any gender identity process?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

Sandy, your statement was very clearly along the same lines as those of Rape Crisis Scotland’s member organisations. The network has been trans-inclusive for 15 years and is operating without an issue. Can you say a bit more about how you have dealt with the medicalisation of trans identity if it has come up in services that either you or Rape Crisis Scotland network members have experienced?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

Sorry, but can I just ask what you mean when you talk about the wider group?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

Meet the criteria.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thanks. I will leave that there.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Maggie Chapman

I just wondered why you raised the Scottish sentencing guidelines.

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