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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you; that is helpful.

Naomi Cunningham, I have a similar question about your views on the case for change, if you view that there is one. In your opening comments, you talked about that larger group of people being potentially eligible. What is your view on whether reform is necessary?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you; that is helpful.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

I will follow up on a couple of things that witnesses have said. It might be appropriate for Robert Strachan to come in here, but that is up to you. James Kerr mentioned that the gender identity and gender reassignment policy is up for review; can you explain that? Has the periodic cycle of reviews led to the current review, or have issues or concerns triggered that at this time? I will come back in on something else related to that, but could you start with that question?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Finally, do you see any potential issue if there is divergence between how the Scottish Prison Service deals with GRCs—and gender reassignment more generally—and how things happen elsewhere in the UK? Given the changes that have happened south of the border, if divergence happens, do you see any problems?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Kevin Guyan, thank you for your comments so far. In your opening remarks, you talked about data not being neutral, and in response to one of Rachael Hamilton’s questions you said that we are drowning in evidence for reform of the Gender Recognition Act 2004.

Will you comment in more detail on specific public policy areas? Rachael Hamilton touched on a few. A few weeks ago, we heard from the Equality and Human Rights Commission that we need to pause and consider how the proposed reform of the GRA would impact the collection and use of data. Given the numbers that we are talking about and what we actually use data for, will you talk in a little more detail about the policy implications? What is the material reality of the bill as it stands, in that regard?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

I was asking about the material reality—the consequences for policy.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. I will leave it there.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that, Karen.

Chris, in your opening statement, you talked about the concerns about the impact of the bill as it currently stands on other protected characteristics. Can you say a little bit more about that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thanks for that.

Conditions will need to be satisfied for any GRC application and you will then be required to give information as to the effect of the GRC, as per section 3 of the bill. Have you determined what that information will include and what you will be looking for?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, panel. Thank you for joining us and for your opening remarks.

My first question is for Paul Lowe and is about the processing and assessing of applications for GRCs. Can you outline how you would go about that? Would it merely be about accepting the statutory declaration at face value? What checks and balances do you envisage having in place?