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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 November 2024
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I am confused by the figures, too, and I will ask one more question about them. I note, for example, that in the line entitled “Employability”, there is a pressure reduction of £53 million. Where did that £53 million appear at the start of the year? Where was that money budgeted?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you for that clarification.

My next question is on the reaching 100 per cent—R100—project. Obviously there will have been some funding changes in that respect, given the £16 million capital saving on digital projects. What impact will that have on the R100 project? Will it delay the project further?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government’s Continuous Improvement Programme and Updated Complaints Policy

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Is that because there are none in progress or none in progress that would—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government’s Continuous Improvement Programme and Updated Complaints Policy

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Okay.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government’s Continuous Improvement Programme and Updated Complaints Policy

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thanks for that clarification.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Good morning, minister. I will continue with questions on the process that Daniel Johnson talked about.

In our evidence sessions during the past few weeks, SOLACE, COSLA, CIPFA, the NHS, the Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland and trade unions have all condemned the approach that has been taken. It sounds like the process has been rushed in this way because there was a commitment to introduce a bill in the first year of this session of Parliament. Is that correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Just now, however, we are writing a blank cheque, because we do not know what is coming further down the line.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

None of those groups came to us and said that there should be no change at all. I cannot remember that being said at all. They all said that they accepted change; however, they were protesting against the fact that the bill that has been brought forward has no detail for them to get behind—or not get behind.

Unite the union said:

“The Scottish Government could not have drafted a more incomprehensible, incoherent and dreadful Bill. The plans to transfer services, people and property from local authorities to the Scottish Government are a recipe for disaster and represent an all-out assault on local democracy.”

Do you not accept that the lack of detail is causing those concerns for many organisations across Scotland?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Do you not admit that the process that you have followed has caused all that uncertainty? If you had done it the other way round and had the co-design first and then the bill, there would be less uncertainty for groups such as Unite the union.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I will move on to my next point. We mentioned standing orders earlier. According to rule 9.3 of the Parliament’s standing orders, a financial memorandum should set out the

“best estimates of the costs, savings, and changes to revenues to which the provisions of the Bill would give rise”.

We heard earlier that this financial memorandum seems to have more financial holes than a sieve. Is there a possibility that you are breaking the Parliament’s own rules here?