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So the target that has been set just now is a headline one.

Okay—that is helpful.

My next question is on the memorandum of understanding that you signed last April with the UK Climate Change Committee, which is up for review fairly soon. I want to get an idea of how that MOU is working, and what future changes to it you might be considering.

I guess that you would avoid that duplication by having good dialogue with the Climate Change Committee.

Absolutely.

Okay. If the rate is being cut and operators must not be left financially better or worse off, the way in which they will maintain their funding stream from the scheme is to increase fares, which impacts everyone else.

I am sorry, minister, but I thought that the numbers had gone down.

Yes.

Sorry, but how does that work, Mr McIntyre? If the prices go up, the rate comes down?

Yes, that would be—

Last week you published a report that found that the previous climate change plan update did not fully meet the requirements of the climate legislation. Can you expand a little bit on what the key issues were? What could be done in future to make that better?