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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

It gives us a steer. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

My questions go back to reporting. The first, which is for Cornilius Chikwama, is about section 36 reports. If the Government misses a target now, it has to issue a section 36 report about how it will get back on target. I guess that, when we move to a five-year cycle instead of annual targets, officially a section 36 report should come out only every five years if a target is missed. Could something else be put in place so that, if we are slipping from those targets, we can get more regular reporting on how we will get back on track? Maybe you would like to reflect on that and come back to the committee.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I return to the point that was made earlier about organisational targets and geographical targets. We have 32 local authorities, of which 17 have set geographical targets and 26 have their own organisational targets. If we look ahead to carbon budgeting, what needs to be put in place? What help do local authorities need to have such targets in place? Some local authorities’ targets are more ambitious than the national targets and some are less ambitious. How do we get all the targets flowing down to local authorities in the correct way? Alison, do you want to have a stab at answering that first?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

How will the funding go to local authorities to ensure that they have plans in place that can feed into the national plans? Do you feel that the funding is in place now? Are we ready to do that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

My question is on the same theme of clarity. We are talking about a 75 per cent reduction in emissions by 2030. Claudia, when you talk about organisational emissions, are you talking only about Aberdeenshire? Who will be responsible for the geographical emissions from Aberdeenshire? Will you play a part in that? Will it be part of your carbon budget or do you see it as part of the Scottish Government budget? Where are the dividing lines?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I have just lost my place in my papers—sorry.

The Government has described this as quite a narrow bill with limited provision for the amount of evidence that we can take, and it has set quite a tight timescale in which to do all of this. Has there been enough time for Parliament and stakeholders to scrutinise the bill and make suggestions on how it could be changed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Was there an argument for making the bill even narrower by removing the targets and setting the new carbon budgets in different legislation? Do you have a view on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

You would like the draft plan and the draft budget to come out together.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I want to clarify the position with regard to the CCC. Is it not already working on a report for delivery in spring for the whole UK?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I will pick up something that Michael Matheson asked about reporting. Is it correct that a section 36 report must be done if you miss your targets?