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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Yes, I intend to move it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Of course.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I have nothing more to add. I moved amendment 51 to try to have better scrutiny and I am happy to press it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Normally, I am in favour of strengthening the wording in legislation. However, is there a danger in this case that policy would almost be enforced on the Parliament by the Climate Change Committee, as opposed to the Scottish Government putting in place policies to meet the carbon budgets?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Amendments 61 and 63 put timescales in place for when reports would be published. Reports would have to be available to the committee to be considered within 30 days of laying, and debated in the Parliament within 60 days. The amendments also include timescales for reports to be laid 140 days before the end of any parliamentary session, to ensure that the Parliament has the necessary time to scrutinise any report before it is dissolved. My amendments 61 and 63 both perform those functions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I have nothing further to say, and I will not press amendment 38.

Amendment 38, by agreement, withdrawn.

Amendments 39 and 40 not moved.

Amendment 61 moved—[Douglas Lumsden].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you for allowing me back in, convener.

I want to pick up on one point, minister. You said that the panels will still be created if the SSI is not approved today. However, with regard to the timescales for creating panels, it sounds as though SPT is furthest on in terms of franchising, although that is still many years away. Surely that gives you time to look again at the legislation and the franchising models, and to ensure that the panels are actually in place. Is that not correct?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

If the SSI is not passed, that will not really change the timescale. We have heard that SPT is the furthest on, but it is still continuing its work and completion is still a long way off. It would surely be better, therefore, to correct the legislation—as I would put it—as opposed to pushing on regardless and missing this opportunity to get it correct.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I will pick up on that point first. Minister, you seem to be saying that, if the instrument is annulled, the panels will continue anyway.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I completely agree with that. However, we should be learning lessons from England and Wales, where people have tried to do the same thing. The approach has not worked there, but we are carrying on with it.