The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
My amendment 47 would require ministers to prepare a biennial report on the number of Gaelic speakers in Scotland. That ties in with some of the discussion that we had on the previous group of amendments, and with my earlier comments regarding amendments to insert into the bill provisions on measurable outcomes on Gaelic.
I recognise that there is no single measure by which the health status of the Gaelic language can be judged, but surely the most critical measure is the number of speakers in Scotland. As we have already explored this morning, the census is not an adequate means of measuring the number of Gaelic speakers in Scotland. The Deputy First Minister and other members of the committee have recognised and set that out.
Given the warnings that the committee has heard from authoritative experts about the decline in the number of Gaelic speakers and the risks to the future of the language in the next five to 10 years, it is not acceptable for Government or the Parliament to wait a decade for another census. To put it bluntly, by the time of the next census, it might well be too late. Gaelic communities need concrete actions to be taken now, and there must be a means for the Parliament to judge in a timely manner whether the actions that are being taken by Government are having the desired effect.
Many members of the Gaelic community have expressed to me that, as this will be the first bill on Gaelic since 2004, the Parliament has had a long time for in-depth consideration of the health of the language in their communities in the round. They cannot wait that long again, or even half that time. We need to make sure that we hold the Government to account on that on a regular basis. More particularly, we have to assess whether its actions are working, so that we can support the Government in getting new means by which to save Gaelic in Scotland.
I am yet to decide whether to move amendment 67, but with it I wanted to set out, as I mentioned earlier, that Scottish Labour is seriously concerned about the limited scope of the bill. It is clear that the bill was originally conceived as an education bill, and I fear that it may in the end represent a missed opportunity to revitalise the Gaelic language in communities where it is traditionally spoken. I am looking for recognition from the Deputy First Minister that the bill does not represent the full extent of the Government’s ambition for Gaelic and that we have to move well beyond it. I am looking for assurances that the Government will, at the earliest opportunity, seek to take more concrete actions to address the key economic questions of housing, jobs and infrastructure in Gaelic communities.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
The Deputy First Minister would recognise that part of the significant reason why that does not happen is just a factor of the numbers. We have a very small Gaelic community as a component part of our overall population and, in many parts of the country, Gaelic is not spoken widely—in some areas, it is not spoken at all. The political reality of that is that there is a small group—of which you are one, as somebody who represents a Gaelic-speaking community. In essence, the weight of the concerns of other parts of the country cannot be allowed to drown out this vital issue. The Parliament will tend towards reflecting that. That is why legislation is an opportunity to put in place moments in the parliamentary calendar when reports might be lodged, where we can have a rhythm of scrutiny that does not lend itself to a moment of panic in 10 years’ time, when the census comes out and shows us a further precipitous decline. It is about the legislation and the purpose of trying to give the Parliament that moment—particularly for what is, by its very nature, a minority issue.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
I certainly accept that that is an option. I have some reluctance in relation to where the targets are set. As, I think, the Deputy First Minister set out, Parliament might have a view on setting what the targets should be through a secondary measure or otherwise, and there would be broader consultation on them. However, I understand the complexity. Given the comments from across the room, there seems to be a willingness for development before stage 3.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
My amendments 26, 27, 30 and 31 would require the Scottish Government to publish draft Gaelic language standards. The bill already requires the Government to carry out a consultation, but a requirement to consult is only worth while as long as there is something on which to consult.
Members of the committee will have gathered that there is significant public interest in the future of the Gaelic language from a range of stakeholders. I know that many have made passionate representations to the committee, in person and in writing, about how best to preserve and promote the Gaelic language. It is only right that the Government draws on the expertise of those stakeholders when publishing Gaelic language standards.
Amendment 32 holds the Scottish Government to a deadline for the publication of the draft Gaelic language standards, that being within one year of the day after royal assent.
There are two reasons for amendment 32. First, I think that it is fair to say that, in recent years, the Government has taken a very generous approach to its own deadlines, using nebulous targets such as “autumn”, which gives little certainty to Parliament or the wider public. The Government should not only set itself clear outcomes against which it can be measured but be transparent about when it expects to achieve those outcomes. A constant shifting of the goalposts erodes public trust.
Secondly, as the committee stated in its stage 1 report, the Gaelic language is in a “perilous state”. We do not have the luxury of time—perhaps you can detect a theme, convener, to many of my amendments. It is really important that the Government holds itself to a timeous deadline for the publication of Gaelic language standards.
I move amendment 26.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
My concern about changing the deadline to two years is that that pushes the matter into the next parliamentary session, and goodness only knows what that will look like. Things are in great flux. I hope that we do not just pass the bill but ensure that substantive action is taken within this parliamentary session. On that basis, I have concerns about moving to a two-year timeframe. In the spirit of negotiation, could we go a bit further? Could we find something at 18 months—essentially, prior to May 2026?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
I welcome that very much.
I was about to close on the fact that targets must drive actions; just having another plan that flows from them is insufficient. There has to be housing, better transport links and jobs in those communities. That is what will make a difference.
On the basis of the assurances that I have had, I do not intend to press amendment 8. I look forward to the discussions ahead of stage 3.
Amendment 8, by agreement, withdrawn.
Section 5—Gaelic language strategy
Amendments 9 to 12 moved—[Ross Greer]—and agreed to.
Amendment 13 not moved.
Amendment 14 moved—[Ross Greer]—and agreed to.
Amendment 15 not moved.
Amendments 16 to 18, 78 and 19 to 25 moved—[Ross Greer]—and agreed to.
Section 5, as amended, agreed to.
Section 6—Gaelic language standards
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
Do you recognise that the independence of that form of analysis is very important? I cite the landmark publication of “The Gaelic Crisis in the Vernacular Community”, which proved controversial in policy circles. Some of the well founded and deeply researched issues in that publication showed the depth of the decline. Although it might be a point of debate, independent research that holds the policy community and the Government to account for their actions is vitally important. In that regard, directly commissioned work from the Government might have its limitations.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 11 December 2024
Michael Marra
I thank the cabinet secretary for her comments, and I think that there is some common ground here on the lack of frequency of reporting with regard to the status—or state—of the language, as far as the level is concerned. I sense that we are moving towards a commitment to doing something about reporting in terms of the areas of linguistic significance, and on that basis, and if there is a commitment to having further discussions ahead of stage 3 on how we ensure that this is in the bill, I am happy not to press amendment 47.
Amendment 47, by agreement, withdrawn.
Section 9—Gaelic language plans
Amendments 48 to 50 moved—[Ross Greer]—and agreed to.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2024
Michael Marra
What is the relationship between the £1.3 billion and the £400 million with regard to the IFS statement? You are saying that it indicated certain things.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2024
Michael Marra
What is the figure for that?