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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

I recognise that. We will stick with the big figures, though.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

What about munitions? The Government’s position seems to be that it supports the boats but does not support the munitions that go with them. Is that the case?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

That is good to hear. The context is the rise of Putin, the war in mainland Europe and the threat in the North Sea as a result. Do you think that it is right for the proportion of UK spending on defence to increase?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

That is great—thank you. I am sure that the committee appreciates the detail that you can provide on that.

Cabinet secretary, I turn to the concern regarding the sustainability of the tax base in Scotland, which is shared by the SFC and the committee. We want to see good, well-paid jobs in Scotland. You will have noticed the announcement from the UK Government over the weekend of the £10 billion deal that has been struck with Norway to deliver frigates, which will secure thousands of jobs on the Clyde for years to come. I have not seen a response from the Government on that. Is it something that the Government welcomes?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

Thank you.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

There has been a real-terms cut.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

My contention is about how you are representing your support for increased defence spending while, at the same time, opposing it in a variety of ways on the basis that you claim that you are being short changed in public spending when, in fact, the money is not being attributed on the basis of personnel in Scotland and, overall, the defence budget has to rise faster than the rest of expenditure. I do not understand the Government's position—it cannot claim that both of those things are consistent at the same time.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

You are not including the 14,000 people who are employed in Scotland in that figure of £2.1 billion. That is about money that is attributed to industry, rather than the global figure on defence, isn’t it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

You will recognise that, at a Treasury level, the Government has to make decisions about where it spends the entirety of its budget.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Michael Marra

I agree with that. However, if you want there to be an above-average increase in defence spending, how can you make the argument that you want to have the same average increase for devolved capacity? Do you want defence spending to grow faster or not?