The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
Would it not have been better if you had presented the anticipated cost as a range of numbers? You have given an anticipated figure, but would it not have been better if you had said that the figure could vary, given the significantly higher totals that are available in other jurisdictions—for example, in Australia, which has a more comparable system? Would it not have been better to have laid out your figures in such a way as to say, “The cost could be as low as this, but it could be as high as that number over there”?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
It is quite a restricted range, compared with what the evidence says.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
But the bill will have an impact in that respect, given the way that the debate has been led.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
It is not clear whether people will have access to legal aid to meet the costs, but according to some estimates, it could cost people tens of thousands of pounds to access a judgment. When it comes to the trade-off between meeting those costs or coming to Scotland and getting the treatment as it is proposed under your bill, surely there will be a cross-border flow of people in that respect.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
You understand my point, however, that people are prepared to travel for it to happen—
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
Does the Australian system not represent a better comparator for Scotland than the system in the US?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
I think that we would all be supportive of that, and I entirely agree that the bill has shone a useful light on palliative care. I also understand that the financial memorandum is about direct consequences of the bill. However, with regard to the impact on the public purse, if we are all saying that palliative care services have to improve—we know that hospice care, in particular, is in a pretty dire and financially precarious situation in various parts of the country—investment would have to be made. That is not represented in the financial memorandum, but there is an impact on the public purse.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
You mentioned earlier that palliative care practices that are in place will be disrupted by the introduction of assisted dying. Could those practices become defined as assisted dying under the terms of your bill and, therefore, become more problematic and, necessarily, more expensive? You talked about people’s pain being traded off against an acceleration towards death, which is, I think, an acknowledged practice in palliative care. Is there a risk that the introduction of the system as you have defined it will make such practices more difficult and, as a result, more expensive?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
My last question is about cross-border interaction with the UK on this matter. Under the scope of your bill, as drafted, the access criteria are far wider than those in the bill that recently passed its first reading in the UK Parliament. Your bill also makes it explicit that the treatment would be provided in the NHS, whereas there is no such explicit commitment in the UK bill, at the moment. People in the UK will also face potentially very high legal costs in order to access the provisions in the bill if it is passed by the UK Parliament.
Is there not a significant risk that, in the event of both bills being passed, a significant number of people will come to Scotland to access that form of care on the NHS in Scotland? Therefore, the numbers will be much higher, and the costs of accommodating people and making the care available will be significantly higher, too.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Michael Marra
People are travelling to Switzerland, at the moment.