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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

Do you anticipate that that figure will change so that we see more fiscal drag—or will that go? I understand the situation with the top and bottom rates, but the rates in the middle are where the bulk of the tax increase revenue comes from.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

I would appreciate that. It goes back to the convener’s point about the fact that there has been no increase in the amount of student resource for many years. The Institute for Fiscal Studies has said that that has resulted in a 22 per cent real-terms reduction in the amount of funding that is available to our universities. Last week, I was at the Education, Children and Young People Committee to ask questions about the situation at the University of Dundee, with which you will be very familiar. The Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans refused to recognise that figure. Do you recognise that figure of a 22 per cent real-terms reduction?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

I appreciate that. The working on that is pretty simple. It involves taking the amount of inflation over the recent period and setting that against the cash allocation. It seems to me that the figure is entirely robust. I take your point about Dundee—there have been failures in management and leadership there in different ways. However, when you described the situation in answer to the convener, you said that the “main headwinds” are not about Scottish Government funding. I would contend that, given that 22 per cent real-terms reduction, that simply is not the case.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

I suppose that it relates to my issue about the health of the sector and Dundee being part of the equation. However, if you look at Robert Gordon University, the University of Aberdeen, the University of Edinburgh, the University of St Andrews and the University of the West of Scotland, there have been headlines across the sector in recent days, and the universities’ leaders are clear that the underlying issue is the 22 per cent real-terms reduction from the Scottish Government. That enforces the business model, which means that they will be exposed to fluctuations in international recruitment in the longer term. In the short term, we are talking about £12 million, £14 million, and so on, and they are small numbers in comparison with the size of the overall budget. What is your vision of how we can get a sustainable sector that can pay for itself in the longer term?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

I take your point that the international students figures are a significant issue, but the most recent decrease in international recruitment is partly about two devaluations of the Nigerian currency, and the UK Government can do nothing about that. The Scottish Government, however, can do something about the exposure of our universities to a volatile international recruitment situation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

The Nigerian currency?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

I ask you to do so because the PEF money for Dundee was cut by half by your Government, and it was redistributed to other parts of the country. Next Monday night, SNP councillors will propose removing 18.8 full-time equivalent posts from the most vulnerable children in Dundee. Should they withdraw the proposal?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

Would you pass that suggestion or observation on to the new committee?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

Who would it be for?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Marra

I want to clarify a few points from your previous answers. In answer to Ross Greer, you said that income tax policies would, in essence, be frozen between now and the election. Does that include the thresholds for the intermediate rates? This relates to fiscal drag. Will those rates be frozen again or will they be uprated?