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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

That relates to the recommendation that you took to the civil service. It gave you the costings. However, you told us in your response that you considered a range of possible approaches. Did the civil service provide you with information about other approaches or was it just one approach?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

To be fair, cabinet secretary, we are having a debate on the matter this afternoon, as you have said, and there have been several of those in Parliament.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

Here is my question to you. Your First Minister has set out what he thought should happen and the Fraser of Allander Institute has said that that would cost £636 million. That analysis was published on 17 January, but you do not have an alternative.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

Did you receive civil service advice on that decision? You have listed some very specific things, including possible approaches to mitigation, balancing cost, pace and payment arrangements. Those are very specific things and I would have thought that the civil service would have given you some advice on them.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

Can you clarify who “they” are in this? Is it the third sector organisations or the civil service?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

All of that is—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

You have made that point.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

Do you agree with the First Minister?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

So, you would have cut £636 million?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Marra

On 14 November, during First Minister’s question time—