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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 12 January 2022

Michael Marra

I understand that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 12 January 2022

Michael Marra

Convener, I think that we have reached a bit of an impasse. The distance between the reality that teachers and pupils are facing on the ground and the cabinet secretary’s response is quite astonishing. The cabinet secretary referred to a case that I raised with her in the chamber, in response to which she told me to ask the teacher who had contacted me to raise the matter with their union representative. The teacher involved is the union rep in their school. People are finding that there is no recourse to get the kind of action on active ventilation that they need. It is clear from what we are hearing now that the funding that has been put in place cannot even be ring fenced for spending on ventilation. To be frank, I am at my wits’ end with the cabinet secretary on this matter. Thank you, convener, for indulging me on the subject.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 12 January 2022

Michael Marra

So, you have not commissioned anything new to address that gap in information relating to secondary schools.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 12 January 2022

Michael Marra

I apologise to colleagues for raising this issue again—they know about my obsession with ventilation issues. The cabinet secretary and I have exchanged letters and many comments in the chamber on the issue. I welcomed the announcement yesterday of some limited resource for active ventilation in schools, but prior to Christmas the cabinet secretary was strident in her rejection of any idea of active ventilation. At what point over the Christmas period did the Government change its mind, and how many air purifying devices does she think the £5 million can provide for Scotland’s schools?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 12 January 2022

Michael Marra

You are only making good on the cuts that you have made since 2007, and, even if we get to that welcome position, there will be no overall increase in teacher numbers. I welcome the funding and the plan to get back to that position, but your Government made those cuts.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Michael Marra

Thanks to the panel for the useful and interesting evidence so far. I want to step back to an earlier comment that I think Frank Mitchell made about the particularly high demand for graduate apprenticeships being greater than supply. Could you unpack that a little bit? To my mind, the graduate apprenticeship scheme has been a real success. Do you agree that that is the case?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Michael Marra

It is good to hear that the commitment is there, given the success that Frank Mitchell has described and the demand in the economy. That is very important.

You will understand that I have concerns about some of the mechanisms and you will recognise that, essentially, funding drives activity. One of the reasons why universities across Scotland have invested in graduate apprenticeships is that it is an alternative funding source for them. They have diversified their activities to drive into this area. Will the programme remain a separate incentive and a resource opportunity? Or are you looking at mainstreaming graduate apprenticeship funding into the grant that is awarded to the universities?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Michael Marra

Thank you to the witnesses, and thank you, convener. I could go on at length—the matter is of significant concern and distress in the sector—but I will leave the questions there for the moment.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Michael Marra

We, as a committee, will keep an eye on this—with the willingness of my fellow committee members. It is an issue of concern.

Overall, we see the programme, which we want to be retained, within the picture of what was described last week as a very disappointing funding settlement for universities. Given that we are talking about skills and skill matches in the economy, can you reflect on the understandable reaction of higher education to the funding settlement that came about last week. It is so important to drive the economy and where we are headed, but we are looking at quite substantial real-terms cuts.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Michael Marra

We are looking at no increase in the unit of resource per student since 2014, plus, as you describe it, an increase in the number of domestic students over the last couple of years, driven by the pandemic—although giving those opportunities is a positive thing that has to be protected. Today, inflation is running at 5 per cent and then there is the Universities Superannuation Scheme. That is all an emerging storm for our higher education sector, is it not?