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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 February 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, panel. Last week, witnesses expressed the need to rapidly get to a place where everyone agrees, including banks and insurers. However, we have heard concerns that, because all the work in a building will need to be completed before it can be included on the cladding assurance register, there is a risk that more substantial cladding remediation works may be completed, but a building will still not be declared safe if other works remain outstanding. Would completion of the substantial remediation works be enough for insurers to be comfortable with insuring a building?

I put the question to Mervyn Skeet first.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

A previous witness, in their written submission, raised concerns about the appropriate balance of responsibility for funding remediation work. The Law Society of Scotland expressed concerns that the bill will place commercial pressure on developers to fund remedial works without building a coherent legal framework for distributing costs between all relevant parties. Can you expand on that and say what sort of implications the bill would have for developers and the remediation programme more broadly to proceed without a coherent legal framework?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

What needs to be done? You talked about stakeholders coming together. Does there need to be a public announcement, as you have just said, to agree on this?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

My next question is again to Fionna Kell, but I am happy to take responses from anybody else.

In your submission you note that the Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill, as drafted, fails to recognise that many of the buildings in the scope of the bill were built according to the building standards that were set out by the Scottish Government at the time, and that they were approved prior to and on completion by local authorities. Do you have a view on the appropriate balance of responsibility for funding cladding remediation work and on how that could be achieved in practice?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Have you brought up the threshold issue with the Scottish Government?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning. My question is for Fionna Kell from Homes for Scotland, but others are welcome to contribute.

In your submission, you warn that the failure to mention the proportionate treatment of SMEs in the bill could force many out of business and result in significant losses of the social and economic contribution that they make at local and national level. Will you expand on the effect that the bill could have on SMEs? What impact will it have on house building if many SMEs are forced to close?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning. I am a member of the Scottish Parliament for West Scotland.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

No; that is fine. I will go on to question 4 because my first question has been answered. Thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, panel members. One of my constituents owns a buy-to-let property in a building that was included in the post-Grenfell pilot programme run by the Scottish Government to reclad buildings. Although the factor has been proactive in engaging with residents, the developer has not been co-operative. The impact of that is that numerous flats in the block have been repossessed, pushing the insurance cover for the building sky-high, and residents and landlords are unable to sell their properties, because new mortgages will not be issued to potential buyers due to the on-going cladding issue. Will the establishment of a cladding assurance register assist in resolving issues with acquiring building insurance or a mortgage for affected structures?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, minister. My question follows on from Mark Griffin’s. Councils are providing more new and improved services—including free school lunches, early childhood education and services relating to social care obligations—that have outpaced the funding that is supplied by the Scottish Government. My question is on teacher numbers. Does local government have to retain teacher numbers, even where enrolment is declining?

It is very promising to hear from you today that you are moving away from input measures and towards outcomes. I have spoken to about 24 authorities, and they have welcomed that language on outcomes, especially with teacher numbers. However, where enrolment is declining, authorities must still deliver the teacher numbers that the Scottish Government has proposed. Local authorities feel that, although teacher numbers are important, innovation and teaching in different ways are also important. Many things surround teaching; it is not just about teacher numbers. What is your view on that?