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Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Paul O'Kane
Good morning, minister. I just want to follow up with you the theme of the task force’s role and purpose that I pursued with David Strang.
It is fair to say that there has been criticism of the fact that the task force initially regarded itself as having only an advisory role. Mr Strang reiterated some of that position, but he also acknowledged that there would have to be a mechanism by which the task force could review work and come back on that. Do you think that that criticism is fair, and what more needs to be done to drive the task force’s recommendations into action?
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Paul O'Kane
We are all keen to ensure that parliamentary scrutiny is at heart of this. You might have heard my follow-up question about ensuring that committees of the Parliament have a laser focus on the issues. It is clear that, as minister, you are keen to engage in that scrutiny and not to outsource—I think that that was the word that you used—the national mission. I have spoken in the chamber about ensuring that there are regular opportunities for scrutiny. Will you outline how you would see a committee such as this joint committee operating? Would you welcome that in relation to scrutiny of the task force’s work and the overall work of the national mission?
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Paul O'Kane
I think that this is the first time that we have come together as committees on these issues, and I think that it is a helpful forum. We are keen that the Parliament has a strong role in the scrutiny of the minister’s delivery on the national mission. Of course, the minister will join us in the next evidence session.
Is scrutiny by Scottish Parliament committees and this sort of forum one of the avenues that we could take to analyse the recommendations and track their implementation?
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 February 2022
Paul O'Kane
Would you accept, though, that we are in the throes of what is essentially a national emergency on this and that it needs a response that is akin to how we would react to other public health crises?
You talked about a silver bullet in a previous answer. I do not think that anyone is saying that there is a silver bullet for this. It is about a basket of measures; it is about communities being well resourced and supported to take the interventions that are right for them.
Would you recognise that poverty is an underlying cause and is an issue that needs to be tackled in order to deal with this crisis?
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 February 2022
Paul O'Kane
Good afternoon, minister. I am the deputy convener of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee and, following on from themes that we perhaps have already heard, I want to focus on the public health approach to this issue. Would the minister view our actions to tackle drug deaths as a public health intervention and accept the requirement for that or does he see it as a criminal justice issue?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Paul O'Kane
I cannot see anyone else wanting to come in on that question at this stage, so I will move along. In national developments, should the impact on health and wellbeing be given equal consideration to, for example, the impact on the climate and the climate emergency? We know that there is a huge focus on that at the moment.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Paul O'Kane
I have a supplementary question for Mike Corbett on the role that schools play within the community approach. Schools in my patch are always keen to enhance that strong community approach. They are having to do more with less and they work with community organisations that are experiencing the same. Does Mike Corbett have any reflections on the role of the school in the community approach?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Paul O'Kane
Yes. In reply to the previous question, you spoke quite powerfully about the community-based approach. I am keen to get a sense from you of what more we can do in communities.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Paul O'Kane
I think that we are coming to my questions anyway, which is neatly timed. I will kick off this section, in which we are looking at national developments.
There are 18 national developments in NPF4, which seems like quite a lot. These things can often become quite cumbersome, and I am keen to understand what impacts those 18 developments will have on health and wellbeing.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Paul O'Kane
We have spoken about universal interventions and the importance of knowing young people and getting the data right. I was struck to read that 15-year-old girls continue to be the group with the lowest wellbeing scores, and I would like to take a bit of time to explore the factors driving that. Do the panellists feel that we should tackle gender inequality across policy areas in order to make a difference? Perhaps Dr Booth wants to say something about that.