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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing and Refugees

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

No, convener. The new Scots strategy has been covered adequately, so I am happy to hand back to you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

Okay. On the point about individual equality impact assessments and their use as a tool, there have been calls from organisations relating to individual budgetary decisions. Many organisations have said that the decision on the reduction in the housing capital budget should have been subject to an equality impact assessment. I put that to the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, who pointed to the broader piece of work that we have just discussed. However, organisations feel that the ramifications and the understanding of the impact that that cut will have are such that it should have been subject to an equality impact assessment. Is it your view that there should be individual equality impact assessments on specific decisions?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

Can I infer from that answer that your view is that the decision on the 27 per cent reduction in housing spend should have been subject to an equality impact assessment and that that would perhaps have meant that there would have been more rounded consideration of that decision?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. I am interested in a similar theme—that of assessing the impact that budgetary decisions have with regard to equalities and human rights. When I asked the question of other ministers at other committees, I discovered that there was no consistency around the use of equality impact assessments.

I will start with the broader equality and fairer Scotland budget statement, and I will then come on to discuss equality impact assessments. The equality and fairer Scotland budget statement was offered by other ministers as an indication that the entire budget and its impact was being looked at in the round, but it is fair to say that there are inconsistencies in how different portfolios have provided detail on that.

I am interested to know what guidance is given to ministers on how they complete that work. What is your view? Do you feel that you have a role, as the minister with responsibility for equalities, to support your colleagues to give as full a picture as possible?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

I appreciate what you have said about the aspiration of Government. However, we can evidence some inconsistencies. Do you feel that a better, standardised format should be given to ministers to ensure that everyone reports in the same way, or do you feel that it is up to individual ministers to make their own interpretations?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

I welcome the cabinet secretary’s openness to that process. Last night, in this room, I chaired the cross-party group on care leavers, and one of the discussions that we had was about the importance of uprating in relation to the challenge of cost of living pressures. Will the cabinet secretary agree to consult and discuss with people with lived experience the importance of uprating as part of the on-going scrutiny work that we will all undertake on the bill?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

The Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill, which is before the Parliament, will introduce two new forms of assistance—childhood assistance and care experience assistance. Is it your view that there should be a statutory requirement to uprate those in line with inflation?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Representation on Public Boards (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

I assume that the work from 2022 was on trying to establish the Government’s programme. Did you consider any bills as an avenue for doing that, or were they all dismissed out of hand straight away?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Representation on Public Boards (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

Thank you convener, and congratulations—I look forward to working with you in your new role.

The cabinet secretary’s introductory contribution was useful. I wonder whether we could explore the timescale. The judgment was made in April 2022, and it effectively changed the law by virtue of its ruling on the definition. This is an exercise to tidy up the statute book, so why has it taken until 2024 to get it going?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Paul O'Kane

Good morning to the panel. The committee has been particularly interested in waiting times. In June last year, David Wallace told us that he hoped that, by the end of summer 2023, average processing times for child disability payment would be “under the 80 mark”. The statistical releases for September show that that was still being missed, by about 26 days—the figure was at about 106 days—although the figure subsequently came down in October, to just over 80 days. Can you give us the most up-to-date picture of whether that under 80-day target that Mr Wallace outlined is being maintained?