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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Eradicating Child Poverty

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

With respect, the cabinet secretary would acknowledge that the Scottish Government has not produced a medium-term financial strategy for quite some time.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Eradicating Child Poverty

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

Growth is increasing.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Eradicating Child Poverty

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. Cabinet secretary, when your party came to power, relative child poverty was at 23 per cent after housing costs were taken into account. Last year, as we have heard, the figure was 22 per cent, so there has been a 1 percentage point fall in 18 years. The Government’s child poverty summary says:

“in recent years, both relative and absolute child poverty have shown little consistent change”.

Do you accept that that is perhaps just a polite way of saying that you have not moved the dial in 18 years?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Eradicating Child Poverty

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

If you could cover the point about lone parents, that would be really helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Eradicating Child Poverty

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

It is encouraging that the cabinet secretary continues to seek engagement on the UK child poverty strategy, which is important. I note her comments about the delay to the strategy’s publication, but she will recognise that Governments often have to take more time in order to understand the work that they are doing. For example, publication of the Scottish Government’s medium-term financial strategy has been delayed again. The Finance and Public Administration Committee has had a number of things to say about that, and its delay has an impact on what we are discussing this morning.

The scope of the UK task force is very important. The cabinet secretary knows my view on the two-child limit: the UK Government should act on that. However, as with any task force, any proposed measures have to be paid for, and I think that that is part of the reason why more time is needed. The Scottish Government, which includes the cabinet secretary, has opposed all the UK Government’s budgetary and taxation decisions—all the revenue-raising measures in the budget have been opposed. I am keen to understand her view on how we should pay for some of the interventions if she is not in favour of the tax-raising measures in the UK budget.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

Clearly, what happens at the moment is that people often fall through the gaps. You are describing what is perhaps a more comprehensive approach to make sure that that does not happen. When considering any disadvantages of a mixed model, are there still risks of gaps in provision and the most vulnerable not being able to readily access a service?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

Throughout our inquiry, we have been looking at the mixed model as proposed in the Government’s discussion paper. We had a bit of a discussion with the previous panel on the finance and the money that is put into legal aid by the Government. Is it your view that a mixed model would save money?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

The Law Society gave evidence on its frustrations, but it also spoke about the opportunity that it sees because of where we are now and because things are beginning to move. It was hopeful that certain proposals, which I think it described as tweaks to the system, might be implemented in the summer, before the end of the parliamentary session. Are you working towards that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

Okay. The committee will be keen to follow that up.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Civil Legal Aid Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Paul O'Kane

Over a number of weeks, including in this morning’s session, we have been discussing the mixed model of payment and delivery, which the Government’s discussion paper calls for. The sense is that it could address some of the issues of identifying and meeting needs in the current system. However, to help to inform our work, it would be useful to get a sense on what panel members’ feelings are about the advantages and disadvantages of that mixed model.