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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 April 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Katy Clark

I understand. Do I have time for an additional question, convener? I know that we are under time pressure.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Katy Clark

Would you be willing to share the advice on legal liabilities with the committee? At the end of the day, all of us will have to pay the price if the fire service does not meet its obligations.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Katy Clark

This is a budget scrutiny process, so what are the budget implications of those challenges? Have you looked at that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Katy Clark

I understand.

As you know, 10 appliances and additional height appliances were withdrawn across Scotland last week, close to 1,100 uniformed firefighter jobs have already been lost and Ross Haggart has indicated that a further 780 full-time firefighter jobs could be lost in the next four years. You have also indicated in your evidence today that firefighters may not be available for the appliances that you have—they will not be able to be staffed. However, concerns are already being raised with us about the lack of availability of appliances and increased response times. I know that modelling has already been referred to this morning, but what work are you doing on the implications of the lack of availability of appliances for the public and on response times? What information are you able to share on what has happened since the 10 appliances were withdrawn?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Katy Clark

Is it fair to say that response times will continue to go up?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Katy Clark

The pay parity issue is clearly very important because some staff and groups of staff have legitimate claims in relation to their treatment and issues around comparative pay.

However, from a public point of view, the backlog continues to be a major problem. There were additional Covid funds. There is always the answer that more resources are needed not just in one part but in all parts of the justice sector to address the backlog, but on what basis are you making your projections for what you expect to happen to backlogs? Some individuals who have come to the committee have described completely unacceptable backlogs in cases being dealt with. Can you outline your approach to that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Katy Clark

What is your projection around the percentage?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Disability Benefit Processing Times

Meeting date: 29 June 2023

Katy Clark

I want to ask about the extent to which we are currently still in a settling-in period. In your submission, you said that

“it was always expected that processing times would need a settling in period … while staff gain experience and new systems are introduced.”

You have said that, usually, it might take a member of staff up to a year to really get across the whole role. The child disability payment has been available nationally since November 2021, but there does not seem to be any indication that processing times are going down. Do you consider that we are still in the settling-in period in relation to that specific benefit?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Disability Benefit Processing Times

Meeting date: 29 June 2023

Katy Clark

I do not see it as being a comparator either, but claimants have said to me that their experiences with Social Security Scotland are worse than those that they had with DWP. They have also said that they did not believe that that could be possible. Do you agree that we need to ensure that we have the highest standards and the quickest processing times, and that the expectation is that the process will be better than it was with DWP? If DWP’s processes are getting better, I very much welcome that. How quickly can we expect better processing times for the adult disability payment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Disability Benefit Processing Times

Meeting date: 29 June 2023

Katy Clark

I am just a little bit concerned by what you are saying and I wonder whether there is appreciation in the agency of how important it is for people to get money quickly. I very much welcome what you are saying about evidence that claimants are finding that the agency is treating them with more kindness and respect. If that is the case, that is a massive advance on where we were in the past.

As you know, however, the reality is that the reason why most people are claiming benefits is that they are in financial difficulties. Some people are in extreme financial difficulties, such that they cannot heat or eat. Can you reassure the committee that you understand the client group that you are dealing with, the importance of ensuring that cases are processed quickly and that people receive money quickly, for the reasons that I have given?