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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 March 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Katy Clark

:When you gave evidence last year, you were clear that you were relatively restricted in the framing of any subordinate legislation that you introduced, because of the crafting of the original legislation. Did you look at whether it might be possible to use the same terminology on sex throughout the legislation, perhaps not by using the section 12 power but in relation to other consequential powers within it? Is that something that you explored? You will have seen the representations on the issue that a range of organisations have made to the committee and, I am sure, to the Scottish Government. There is a view that the use of different terminology in different parts of the act could mean that there will be different interpretations. Did you explore whether it might be possible to get a consistent definition by using either section 12 or another part of the act?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Katy Clark

:You will have seen the representations that have been made, and you will be very aware of all the arguments. Is it the Scottish Government’s view that the term “sex” in the act will always be interpreted as “biological sex”, in accordance with the Supreme Court judgment?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Katy Clark

I am really asking what you mean and what work you are involved in. I do not want to make a presumption. There is obviously a wide range of other agencies. Perhaps you could talk about some of the work that you are involved in. If you want to talk about the Nook, that would be fine.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Katy Clark

Yes—you have spoken about that.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Katy Clark

If there is any further information that you want to give us in writing, that would be helpful. I know that we have an issue with time.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Katy Clark

I appreciate that we do not have a huge amount of time.

It would be helpful if you could give us a great deal of detail on the retention issue, which is concerning both in the fact that the number of police officers is dropping and in the recent statistics showing that a disproportionate number of quite young police officers and officers with not many years’ service seem to have left. It would be helpful to get an understanding of that over a wider period and of whether that has changed over the past 10 or 20 years, say. If you can provide that detail when you write, it would be very useful.

I wanted to ask mainly about the work that is happening with individuals and agencies other than the NHS. A great deal of the evidence today has related to the national health service and the transfer of care—and to what happens in hospital or in similar settings. Many of the scenarios that the police have to deal with are clearly not in those settings. Could you say a little bit more about what work is being done now? Are other agencies or individuals working to ensure that the police can transfer individuals outside those settings? There have been a number of mentions of other agencies and other partners.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Katy Clark

I appreciate that we do not have a huge amount of time.

In broad terms, what proportion of the types of scenarios that we are talking about are non-NHS—that is, scenarios in which the NHS is not the right place—but are scenarios in which the police should still be able to hand over? I am asking that to get an understanding, because so much of the evidence has been about the NHS.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Katy Clark

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Katy Clark

You obviously want to keep up a good relationship with your employer, and that is a positive thing, but the obvious worry is that there has been a delay due to the forthcoming election. What is likely to be proposed might be very unpopular—and the money has not been allocated in this year’s budget for the expanded role.

What impact do you expect this year’s budget, which we are examining now, along with the 2026 spending review, to have on plans for service reform? Will the proposed budget that you have now seen have an impact?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Katy Clark

You are saying that you fear that both station closures and job losses are coming.