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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 December 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Contract (Formation and Remedies) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Katy Clark

Lorna Richardson, do you think that there should be a right to contract out of any rules on the law of retention?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Contract (Formation and Remedies) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Katy Clark

Does anybody have anything to add on that particular issue?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Katy Clark

Yes—exactly.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Katy Clark

For reasons of time I will ask about just one aspect of the bill. The new offence that we have just been discussing is crafted to address an identified problem and is designed to have a deterrent effect. We knew that there were going to be FOI requests about how the Scottish Government had dealt with Covid, and that is the particular scenario that has led to the proposed provision.

Do you have experience of working with the criminal offences in the 2002 act? The provision in the bill has been crafted in the same way. Do you have any practical experience of dealing with scenarios that have led to prosecutions under the act? That existing provision is rarely used.

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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Katy Clark

My question is about the proposed criminal offence. The threshold for a criminal case is “beyond reasonable doubt”. The new offence is perceived to be about closing a loophole. It would have to be shown in court that someone was intending to avoid the law by destroying information. Do you think that the new offence would be used often, given that the criminal charges that already exist are rarely used?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Katy Clark

I think that we have run out of time. Thank you.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Katy Clark

The proposal for FOI officers to have a statutory basis has come from FOI officers over an extended period, long before I got involved in the issue. FOI officers in many organisations have said that they are having difficulties in getting their organisations to comply with the legislation. I appreciate that that does not sound as if it is at all the case in Glasgow, but it is the case in other organisations. FOI officers—who are often also data protection officers, particularly in smaller organisations—are saying that having a similar statutory basis to that for data protection would give them the authority in an organisation to insist that the law was complied with. Does that make sense to you?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Katy Clark

I have a couple of questions for Kenneth Meechan. It is good to hear that the existing legislation is working well for a large organisation such as Glasgow City Council. The policy intention behind the bill is not to add costs to such organisations or to move away from the structure of the existing legislation, known as FOISA, which uses a designation approach—I think that you referred to it as a list process—but to build on that, based on 20 years of feedback from organisations, the public and information commissioners.

One of the suggested changes is a move towards proactive publication. Would the code of practice that the Scottish Information Commissioner is to issue assist local authorities such as yours in knowing what must be proactively published? We know from evidence that technology has the ability to drive down publication costs.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Katy Clark

Have I got time for one more question, convener?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Katy Clark

I will also ask about response times, because it is a focus of the Fire Brigades Union Scotland. Call-handling times for risk-to-life calls have increased by more than 20 seconds, and response times to risk-to-life incidents have increased by 1 minute and 20 seconds since 2016. FBU Scotland told us that, unless there is a better budget settlement, response times will continue to rise. That is a massive concern for communities across Scotland.

As Sharon Dowey said, there have already been a huge number of firefighter job losses. It is clear that the organisation has been attempting to make significant savings. There have been real-terms cuts of £56 million, so the fat, we presume, has gone. To what extent is the potential for further increases in response times linked to budgetary issues, to staffing and to the availability of the appropriate appliance for a particular incident, which is also a significant issue?