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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

If you think that women—

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

I will ask a further question. You said that you cannot make a commitment to carrying the bill over to the next parliamentary session. However, surely the Scottish National Party Government should be making a commitment about what it would do in that session. If you take the view that there is simply not enough time to advance the bill in this session and that that time genuinely cannot be found, because of the amount of work that would be involved and because there are so many other bills—I have a member’s bill myself—surely you should be making the case that this issue should be allowed to be carried over to the next parliamentary session? Is your role not to try to advance the bill as far as possible in this parliamentary session and, if, in March, the Parliament is genuinely in a position where the bill cannot be enacted, to make the case for carrying it over?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

That further information would be really helpful.

Can you say anything about the financial impacts on other areas of the criminal justice system of the failure to rehabilitate people while they are in prison? Have you done any work on that, or have you a view on it?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

I will ask about rehabilitation and pre-release planning.

We have high numbers of people in prison in Scotland. Teresa Medhurst, you spoke about the purposes of prison. If we accept that one of its purposes should be aiming to reduce reoffending, what more could be done on that, and what would be the budgetary implications?

We heard from Linda Pollock about some aspects of rehabilitation work, but we regularly hear from others that prisoners are unable to access programmes. In your written submission you set out the impact of high prison population numbers on your ability to carry out such work. Will you say a little more about budgets and whether specific groups need to be prioritised for work on rehabilitation and planning for release? The evidence suggests that the more planning takes place, the less likely it is that there will be reoffending.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

Well, I have asked whether it is acceptable.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

I have a further question in relation to the potential new criminal offence. Do you agree that the central issue for this committee and for the Scottish Government is whether criminalising paying for sex is the right thing to do for society and the women involved? Do you agree that the issues around the difficulty of prosecution that were raised in evidence to the committee are very similar to those around other offences, such as rape and sexual offences, given the nature of those offences and this potential offence?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

There are very low conviction rates for rape, but nobody suggests that that means it should be decriminalised. Do you agree that the central issue is whether the act should be a criminal offence?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

In your opinion, is it acceptable?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Katy Clark

It would be helpful to get some detail about why you think that.