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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 November 2024
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Russell Findlay

It may be that further costs are expected or have been agreed to but the money has not gone out the door.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Russell Findlay

I have two unconnected questions—one for each of you. The first is for the court service.

In your letter, you mention the income that is generated from civil court business, which is about £46.5 million in the current year. You may recall that I wrote to you earlier this year about a court press agency that accesses certain information for an annual fee. It was a fairly nominal fee of £350 per annum, but the agency has been informed that that will rise to £34,000, which is an increase of over 4,000 per cent. You were kind enough to reply and you said that that would be looked at as part of a broader review that was to begin last month.

I am curious to know whether there has been any progress on that front and whether there is any sympathy given how extreme and, to be frank, unworkable such an increase would be.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

It is kind of connected to that, but I have a couple of questions, so you might want to bring others in first, convener.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

It was £4 million initially?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

But approximately—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

This might sound a bit left field, but I note from the photograph of it that the appliance has a blue and white saltire on the front of it. If you were in a vehicle and it was coming up behind you, it would look more like a haulage vehicle than a fire engine.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

You said that it was 660 grand for a fire engine. How much would a normal one cost?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

I appreciate that it is all largely speculative just now, but some of what you have spoken about will have real effects on police officers and members of the public. We are talking about 101 services potentially being suspended. As I understand it, in recent years murder inquiries have been the subject of investigations by major investigation teams—MITs—as a given. I suppose that only the chief constable could answer a specific question about an operational need to change that: only the chief constable or one of his senior officers would be able to answer much of what I would like to ask.

It was reported a month ago that the chief constable is pursuing other roles. Have you had discussions with him? Is that in any way connected to the budget projections?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

Where is the chief constable today?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Russell Findlay

Sure, but dozens of forces elsewhere in the UK have managed to overcome similar challenges and have prioritised such spending.

The next issue that I want to ask about is to do with mental health. Lynn Brown has already touched on the fact that officers have to deal with people in the community who require mental health support and treatment. I am coming at the issue from a slightly different perspective—my concern is police officers’ mental health. We have heard very strong evidence on the pressures that officers are under and the struggles that they face, and how that can seriously impact on their wellbeing. There is a sense that they do not currently have the support that they need. There have been some absolutely tragic outcomes, with officers taking their own lives and others coming close to doing so.

If what is proposed comes to pass, even in part, that situation will only get a whole lot worse. What thought has been given to improving the support that is available for officers?