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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

In that case, it feels as though the answers that you have just given on the record about the importance of ensuring that there are enough social workers in place and that they get the support that they need to do their job do not seem to be very adequate.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

For some hearings that are held on welfare grounds, some information, which is perhaps considered to be “other relevant information”, to use the legal term, can come to light. That could be conversations with police that did not necessarily lead to arrest or charge but that have come to light and that appear on enhanced disclosures for children and young people. Does the minister think that young people should have access to legal representation by a duty solicitor in those situations, too?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I will run my questions together, if that is okay, convener.

Thank you very much for the evidence that you gave us in advance and for your answers to our questions so far. First, I want to pick up on the point about it looking as if the target for panel members will not be reached. What is your strategy in that respect? What is the backup plan if that happens?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Of course.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

No problem.

I want to continue the conversation about volunteers and to pick up on Ben Farrugia’s point about the change in the profile of the people who will be coming through the system.

Police Scotland figures on domestic abuse suggest that there could be an increase in the number of such cases coming through the system—almost three or four times more. What kind of training do panel members currently get on domestic abuse, the trauma-informed approach and coercive control, and what might they need going forward?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. It sounds as though quite a bit of work has to be done to get to the capacity that is required.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have one more question on timing, which is for Ben Farrugia, and a question on training.

We have just heard from Stephen Bermingham that, post-commencement, about 12 to 18 months would be required to get the panel members in position. What sort of timescale would be involved for the number of social workers that is required?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that, convener, and I thank the witnesses for the evidence that they have given us so far.

The Government proposed that, alongside the bill, a victim contact team could be part of the solution to various issues. Could that be part of the answer, or would that be inadequate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am sorry, convener. It is a quick question on the numbers of people who take up the opportunity to get information on victims. Alistair, I note that, in the context of your work, only about 13 to 14 per cent of people do so. Do you know why that is? What have you done to investigate it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It was the three years previous to 2019 that I quoted figures on.