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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am sorry, cabinet secretary, but the Government has said, and the committee has made it very clear, that the bill needs to change, including when it comes to membership of the board of Education Scotland.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

No one wants it to be delayed.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have one final question. The convener read out the policy note that we have received today, which says:

“This is to ensure continuity of leadership from appointments made during the transitional period.”

Members and others will know about my concern in respect of leadership continuity, and the convener has reiterated that concern. How long is the transitional period, and when could we expect to have a fresh board in place?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not doubt that there is a lot of information that could and should be used. I make the point that the Hayward review made suggestions in that area, which have not necessarily been progressed by the Government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. I want to move on slightly to the matter of young people with additional support needs—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The cabinet secretary will be aware of the 20 percentage point gap between pupils with and without additional support needs meeting the expected curriculum for excellence level, and also the gap between those pupils who have additional support needs and those who do not going to a positive destination.

The cabinet secretary has spoken quite a bit about the role of local authorities. I heard her say earlier that she does not have much power in that space, whereas local authorities do. However, the Audit Scotland report on additional support for learning that came out recently says:

“Funding allocation methodologies for councils do not reflect the ASL legislation, the presumption of mainstreaming and the continued growth in recorded additional support needs.”

In the light of that report, what is your response to that observation? When will the outcomes for those young people improve?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Can the cabinet secretary tell us how many teachers are employed on temporary contracts using PEF?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It relates to PEF as well as the attainment challenge, because it is important to have staff in schools, and if the staff do not feel secure in their role it is difficult for them to pass that feeling of security on to children and young people.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The cabinet secretary is well aware of the reasons for that.

Finally on PEF, I met a headteacher in my Glasgow region last week. She said that the school that she looks after has a great number of needs but is struggling to get an associated allocation of PEF because of the way in which the funding is distributed. When will the allocation of PEF—including the way in which it is allocated—be reviewed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

On the point about using SIMD and more specific data, we had the same discussion last week in relation to widening access to university and college education. Can the cabinet secretary state briefly whether she supports a national data-gathering and collective agreement so that that level of data can be shared across colleges and universities? That would enable them to use more granular data.