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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Displaying 2015 contributions

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am sorry but I have to say that I think that you are. The issue is not so much whether, if there is a particular rate, we do X. The disconnect in what is happening between pupils and teachers and the SQA is ever growing and the gulf of distrust is widening. That is the problem here, and it does not surprise me, unfortunately, that it continues when you cannot accept that that is the case.

You asked me whether I am now asking you to instruct an independent review. My question was whether, when you noticed the change in rate and started to hear that there were concerns, you asked the qualifications body to look into it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Do Fiona Duncan and Fraser McKinlay wish to respond?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not doubt that. I believe that many people across the entire system are trying their very best, but it all still feels a bit like pinning jelly to a wall. It does not feel as though a tangible difference has been made or that the reality for children and young people will improve. I find it hard to put my finger on what I would say if a young person were to ask me what the Government is doing today to improve the experience of children and young people. We can talk about strategies and about unlocking the money that is in the system, but from what I am hearing, I still cannot get what real difference that will that make to children and young people across Scotland.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Are you happy that the SQA used its own staff and spoke to its own teachers, who are markers, to do that, and that it has produced a report that you think does not protect the system as it was?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is okay, convener. I have a couple of questions. Thank you for answering our questions so far, minister.

I want to go back to the numbers of people who are in regulated roles but not in the scheme. In particular, what financial impact has there been for organisations in helping them to comply? How can there be any understanding of the financial impacts if we do not understand how many people who should be on the scheme are not yet on it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is important that we reflect that back. If we do not have a full understanding of the numbers, I cannot see how, for example, the role could be regulated, as we do not know how many people we would be regulating. That aspect is fundamental and it is important that we reflect that in the report.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Moving on to a final point about delays, the data that I have from March shows that the PVG scheme record update in 2016 took just over two days. That was up at nearly nine days in 2023. Do the minister and Disclosure Scotland think that the changes will resolve some of the delays and make the updates quicker, or do they expect the time required to continue on that trajectory?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sorry. I get the point but, ultimately, the Government made a commitment to such provision, so what has it done to take into account the pupils who have not been able to access that provision? What is the Government’s assessment of who is missing out? What will the Government do about it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is appreciated, but the minister will know that most of the income that she has just described that can be used for those purposes is being stretched in different directions and that local authorities are really struggling. If this is not the bill to provide improvements for the pupils who we have heard are missing out, what is the Government’s alternative?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

With regard to some of the gaps in the data, how did the Government come to the alternative financial memorandum that it has proposed?