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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank the Deputy First Minister for setting that out. This is probably not the time or the place to go through my concerns about that particular body and that bill.

However, I will say that the duty that my amendment 84 would provide is slightly broader than the duty that is proposed in the education bill. In my understanding, the education bill clarifies the existing duty around the qualifications body to consider making materials available—it effectively tidies up that duty for the purposes of the bill. However, in practice, that duty is not enough, because teachers and staff in schools are not made to provide other materials in addition to that.

To strengthen what is required, given how important it is that all the material be available, it is not enough that there be a duty in the education bill—notwithstanding the fact that it has not yet gone through the Parliament. It is not just the exam papers themselves that schools are having to translate, but some of the material that supports young people to do the best that they can in their exams, which takes up a lot of time and, in some cases, money.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Just for clarity, would you consider defining targets differently in the bill, or do you think that there should be no targets in the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

For clarity, can you confirm that you think that it is important that there are still local approaches to other strategies, giving voice to the views of local people, communities and organisations, and that the intention of the amendments is simply to clarify that there is a national strategy?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am minded to support the amendments, given the committee’s conclusions on that aspect, but I have a couple of questions. Will you set out why the financial resolution came so late? Why is the power specifically needed in this bill? In the ordinary workings of Parliament, the Government can, through the budget process, allocate finance to whatever it wants, in effect. It would be helpful to have clarity on those points.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The amendments in the group are to recognise that, in Scotland, when we take pride in our teaching profession and in the standards to which teachers work, many of those standards are supported and guided by legislation and by standards set out by the General Teaching Council for Scotland.

As it stands, the bill does not fully recognise those standards. It is unclear how the standards around Gaelic that are proposed in the bill will relate to the way in which the GTCS carries out its functions on the standards relating to education more broadly. Amendments 81 and 82 seek to clarify that.

Amendment 81 sets out the standards of education and training that are appropriate for schoolteachers and the conduct and professional competence that are expected of teachers as per the GTCS standards. Amendment 82 requires the Government to make sure that the General Teaching Council for Scotland is consulted. The amendment would make that explicit; it would clarify and preserve the approach that we have had in Scotland for some time, which recognises graduate professional teachers.

I move amendment 81.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Can the Deputy First Minister make it clear that she is prepared to consider the matter and address it at stage 3?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

What discussions has Emma Harper had with the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland and teachers about amendment 74 in particular?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My earlier point was not that we should now have an independent review, although that is a legitimate view. It was more about whether, when you saw all of this happening before the SQA did the review, you asked it to do an independent review.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to build on the point about statutory codes of practice and move slightly to the point that Laura Caven made about other services. We have heard about the role of schools. COSLA’s additional support for learning project board, which I think, Laura, you are a co-chair of, has highlighted the importance of refreshing the code of practice on learning for pupils with additional support needs, but action on that appears to be way down the line.

One area in the plan that has been identified as having zero actions completed is resources. Laura, could you talk a bit about whether you feel that there is enough pace of work in the additional support for learning project board to help to make the connections across the different agencies that you highlighted, and whether you think that the code of practice will be updated any time soon?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

If not strategies or legislation, what will change the dynamic?