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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning and thank you for the information that you have shared with us so far. First, I will ask some more questions in the space that we have been just been discussing.

We have heard from a lot of witnesses that free school meals data, for example, would be a useful measure of individual fair access and that there is legislation in place across other parts of the United Kingdom, such as England and Wales, where data can be shared with UCAS to allow that. We also heard that it would be difficult to scale up the current pilot in the north-east.

On that basis—although I do not want to step on other members’ toes—could you tell us a bit about what you are doing to improve data analysis around fair access?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Related to that is the issue of student experience. We have heard evidence that the holistic approach to fair access needs to be progressed, but that it will require work on the existing credit-based funding model. Of course, that model focuses on input rather than output, which in turn drives a particular focus on, say, full-time learning, and we know that the demographics are shifting away from that. What is the Funding Council doing to address some of that and to offer a more agile and flexible approach to institutions through its funding model?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have a brief supplementary question on that. Has the minister looked at whether current bills that are going through Parliament on education could be vehicles through which to progress the issue?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The group had a lot of expertise on it, from both universities and people with lived experience, and the minister might benefit from reconvening it.

I turn to questions on broader support. We have heard a lot of evidence that wraparound support for students is becoming more difficult for universities and colleges to fund due to financial pressures. What is the minister’s response to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Okay. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Nonetheless, the issues here are of concern. Education is devolved, so we have an interest in this. We spoke about widening access this morning. Do you have concerns about the ability of institutions in the environment that we have just discussed to continue to cross-subsidise in order to support the widening access agenda?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is fairly widely accepted that getting into university is only part of the story, and that staying in and coming out as a graduate are also key measures. The commissioner for fair access suggested that we should give equal weight to entry, student experience and outcomes. What data are you gathering to help us to understand those aspects of the widening access agenda?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to ask about one of the things that you announced earlier, minister.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that, and thank you for the offer to work together. I would be happy to take up that offer.

Last week, Rebecca Scarlett from Lead Scotland gave evidence. It is important to repeat what she said about the review of support for disabled students that was carried out in 2019 and reported in 2023. Rebecca said that disabled students had

“put a huge amount of resource, energy and time into the review.”

She went on to say:

“The report, which was finally released in 2023, made a ream of recommendations, almost none of which has been implemented. I know that Scottish university heads submitted a request to the Scottish Government that that be taken forward, but next to nothing has happened. Nothing has changed, even in relation to the smallest recommendations that were made, and now the work is all out of date. All that energy, resource and time were invested, but nothing has happened, which is extremely frustrating.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 26 February 2025; c 44-5.]

What will be different this time? Can the minister reassure organisations that engaging this time will result in change?