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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

What sort of dynamics?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Okay—I appreciate that. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

We have evidence to show that you were aware of some of the information that you say you were not aware of, Dr McGeorge. You just spoke about not knowing things until later in 2024. The Gillies report says that there was a warning shot in September 2023 but you still oversaw the recruitment of more staff. Why did you not take that warning?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Does that include listening to colleagues who emailed you and asked you direct questions about recruitment and decisions that were being made?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That seems like strange practice to make that change without there being any kind of governance decision, such as, “If you don’t say anything, it’s three strikes and you’re out.” Surely there would be a record of that kind of decision.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

But you said earlier that, crucially, there is a difference between what the court does and what the executive does.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

But other information from other colleagues impacts on financial decisions, and they may not have been invited because of the change in 2023.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

You were asked earlier in this meeting about recruiting extra people and about the decisions made when deficits were reported and you decided not to change course. You told the committee that you acted on the information that you got and that you did not get any information that would have been contrary and that would therefore have made you change your mind.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Okay.

What total savings did you come to in the 2024-25 budget, and how were those allocated?