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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Do Fiona Duncan and Fraser McKinlay wish to respond?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not doubt that. I believe that many people across the entire system are trying their very best, but it all still feels a bit like pinning jelly to a wall. It does not feel as though a tangible difference has been made or that the reality for children and young people will improve. I find it hard to put my finger on what I would say if a young person were to ask me what the Government is doing today to improve the experience of children and young people. We can talk about strategies and about unlocking the money that is in the system, but from what I am hearing, I still cannot get what real difference that will that make to children and young people across Scotland.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Are you happy that the SQA used its own staff and spoke to its own teachers, who are markers, to do that, and that it has produced a report that you think does not protect the system as it was?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

On the point that the Government does not know how many people and, in particular, how many people with additional support needs, are accessing such residential trips, does the Government accept that, in order to deliver on its existing commitments in that area, it really should know that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

In the Government’s response, it has said—and you have repeated on the record this morning—that it

“is committed to improving outdoor learning provision ... ensuring that all learners are experiencing regular, enjoyable, and challenging outdoor learning experiences”.

As far back as the 2021-22 programme for government, Government said:

“We will make sure that pupils from lower-income families can take part in school trips, providing support for children to go on curriculum-related trips and activities”.

In our evidence sessions on the bill, Tara Lillis from the NASUWT, and others, have told us that there are “significant barriers” to participation under current provision, including costs to schools, particular barriers for specialist settings to access appropriate facilities and other

“systemic barriers to participation that align with ... equality duties”.—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 13 November 2024; c 5.]

What is the Government’s assessment of the proportion of pupils who have the opportunity to undertake residential outdoor education?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that, minister, but I want to understand what is happening.

We know that work is continuing—the minister and the Government regularly describe the on-going work. The fact remains, however, that a high number of pupils are still struggling to access outdoor learning because of the lack of support and the barriers that the NASUWT highlighted to the committee.

Should the bill be passed, has the Government made any plans to implement it in order to see some of the changes that are required?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Has it made any plans for implementation, if the bill is passed, as part of the solution to the problems that we are discussing?

If the bill is passed to make change happen, rather than just having the existing strategies and systems that the Government is speaking about, it could drive the change that is required. Has the Government made any plans for how it would be implemented?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Would the minister accept that more needs to be done for pupils with additional support needs, regardless of whether the bill is passed?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Forgive me. I was asking about outdoor learning in general.