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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that, and it brings me to my final question. What will change if the bill is passed? You have spoken about the qualifications committee and a schools unit, but what will be different after the bill is passed and why should we, as parliamentarians, and the public have confidence that things will change?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to ask specifically about the cabinet secretary’s direction. I understand a lot of the obligations that you have set out, and I am sure that there are many. Did you get any direction from the cabinet secretary in relation to the SATH survey?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

A number of the questions that I was going to ask were around culture, and they have already been covered.

I will take us back to 2020, when SATH said that similar circumstances had occurred. I understand that SATH has suggested that there were two exchanges—one email and one phone call—that made it clear that the SQA was displeased with the survey and that it could potentially lead to the SQA failing to support SATH in the future. That was in 2020, when a similar survey, I assume, resulted in similar circumstances. How did we end up here again, if a similar incident had already happened? What is different this time that will convince subject organisations that engagement with the body will be respectful and collaborative?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I will pick up on the original response from Shirley Rogers about the people on the panel not necessarily being there in 2020. I accept that, I do, but it happened in 2020—I say “it”—and it seems that something similar is happening again. Short of saying, “Trust me,” which, as you said, will not do it, what will mean that we will not be back here in another couple of years?

In addition, what engagement have you had with the cabinet secretary and what has she asked of you in this regard?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am content to consider them together, but I have a question about one of them. Is it okay to put that question now?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is a fee waiver for volunteers, but it is not for other low-paid staff who the fee is sometimes passed on to?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Is there any specific action that you think will be taken within the next six months to improve the situation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I agree with that. Seeing the change will be really important.

Since the issues around the history paper arose—and I have some more questions on that—I have been contacted by teachers who have had concerns with timetabling, for example. We know that there were recent timetable changes. One teacher came back and said that the way that languages exams will now be structured means that students who are learning a couple of languages will have to sit their exams in close succession. He referred to the

“new exam timetable following complaints … I looked at it and they’ve now got the Spanish and French ... exams on consecutive days. ANY languages teacher, if they’d bothered to ask us, would have told them this is a recipe for disaster”.

The reason why I mention that is that it is another example of teachers feeling that they have not been engaged with.

The teacher went on to say:

“they fully admit to willingly throwing us under the bus”.

I have heard this morning that you have accepted some of the criticism, but that is a real issue. There are teachers who are so disengaged that they feel that the experiences of their pupils are beginning to creep in as a concern, even on timetabling issues now.

Did you speak to any language teachers about the timetabling issue? What do you think will change as a result of the examples that you have given today, including the schools unit, that would make a difference for that teacher?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

What specific actions could be taken by the teacher that I mentioned, teachers in classrooms today who feel a similar way or the teachers that we heard representations from on the history paper to raise their concerns now, so they do not necessarily have to wait? I get that some changes will take a bit longer, but what can those teachers do now, and how can they be reassured that their concerns will be properly addressed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Okay. Thank you.