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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Take 2.

Minister, at the beginning of this evidence session you announced a consultation on two specific groups of students, if I remember rightly. Can you tell us a bit more about what that consultation seeks to ask and find out? What will you do with its results?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I probably mean for both, if I am honest. However, in this context, we are talking about widening-access students. In its evidence, Universities Scotland said:

“We heard from the commissioner that there is a recognition in other countries that increased needs require increased investment”,

but that

“That is not necessarily what happens in Scotland.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 26 February 2025; c 43.]

Therefore, it is probably about that group of people.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you think that the support is sufficient for people who need support to get through university, to fund the additional costs that they might have, or do you need to look again at how student support is targeted?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Finally, submissions from the Open University, UWS and others have mentioned the value of part-time studying. We heard about that this morning. Obviously, the part-time fee grant, which is available only to those earning under £25,000, has not been reviewed in a while. Is the Government considering a review of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Would it be possible to look at that aspect? You say that you do not know whether people are leaving because of a positive reason, such as taking employment, or to go elsewhere. How big a task would it be to start gathering that information?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

On your point about the different impairment groups in the data, I noticed from the data that you shared with the committee in advance that the figure for people with visual impairment was 0.1 per cent quite a while ago, and it is still only 0.1 per cent now. Do you know why that is?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

A colleague will probably ask more questions on that in a moment and I do not want to steal them, but thank you for that.

The universal student identifier that you spoke about sounds useful. Would anything that you have learned from the pilots in Aberdeen benefit from that number? Does it need legislation or could we do it without legislating?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I, too, note that the points in the Open University’s submission are really important and echo a lot of what has just been said.

I will return in a moment to the topic of student support and student experience. First, I have a question about measures and articulation. We have spoken about the idea of students having a unique identifier number and have heard a lot of evidence that that might be really important. We have also heard that the pilot that is taking place in the north-east is not necessarily scalable because of some of the problems that have been encountered. What are the issues and what could we do to resolve those?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I take the point about the HNC and the HND being valuable end points. I do not want to undermine or dilute that with my next question, because I agree that they are incredibly valuable, particularly for employers and others.

On the point about articulation, yesterday’s data on colleges showed a significant reduction in student numbers—both part time and full time, if I remember correctly. How might that affect what colleges do in general and with regard to articulation and the widening access agenda in particular?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Having seen the brilliant work that is going on across the sector and universities, I am proud of the diversity of the universities in Scotland, and I hope to see them flourish for decades to come. Can you give us any reassurance that principals and other figures in universities are watching carefully what is happening in Dundee and are prepared to take seriously any suggestions or recommendations for how they can work to ensure that we get a strong sector again?