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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning. Thank you for joining us and for bringing Fernando with you. It is always nice to see a pet, stuffed or otherwise, online.

I am keen to pick up on cultural awareness, where my colleague Rachael Hamilton left off. When we last spoke, there was an aspiration for us to do something on particular weeks. Can we help with that on an on-going basis? What would you like or do you need politicians in this room and across the chamber to do to support that work?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Obviously, there has been a lot of focus this week on Ukraine and the illegal war there. We heard briefly about that just now. I take the point about your engagement with those families, but do you know whether access to training in English as a second language here has been stretched? Are there enough resources to make sure that people who come here from Ukraine and other countries get access to that education?

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

In the motion that you read out earlier, you said that “further steps are needed”. Will you set out some of those further steps for us?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I suspect that Rachael and I may be about to ask the same thing—I hope that I do not cut across you, Rachael.

On that final point, what options are available to us to uphold the minimum core? What have we got now and what will we need in the future so that, if we see a circumstance—Rob Watts highlighted a good example—where we may not meet the basic minimum, we can enforce it? What powers do you, the courts, individuals and parliamentarians need?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is a good question. I mean both: now—I am conscious that, as we have heard, we should be enforcing the minimum core now—and post-incorporation as well. The purpose of incorporation is to make rights more real for people, surely.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you—I appreciate that. That is an interesting way to put it: what do we do first? We will need to have a wee think about that and probably come back to you guys for your expertise on it.

I want to pick up on your point, Luis, about measurement and data. Is the availability of data and the gathering of evidence and data, as well as your ability to compel that data to be provided, an issue? Are both things an issue, or is it just—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Both. Okay. That links into my next question. How can we measure whether we are meeting those obligations? Also, how can we measure whether the state has used all its resources? How can we measure whether we have maximised the resources in terms of the relative provision? Where do we start?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

When you say “independently”, do you mean that families have to source that training, as opposed to its being readily available?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. Zainab, do you have anything further to add?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Yes.