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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

When items on, for example, the globalisation strategy were discussed, the chair of court’s suggestion was that the determination about which VPs would be invited was yours—after it had been decided that they would not ordinarily attend—why did you—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is okay. I understand. I also understand that it is a very difficult circumstance. If there is any misunderstanding, please just ask for clarity, and I will do the same.

Wendy Alexander is not the only person who suggested that information was not flowing in ways that it should. For example, the court’s membership and who attended its meetings changed. Vice principals were asked not to attend. Did you make that decision?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Her decision, yes. She made the decision that VPs would not attend.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

She then relied on you to invite the relevant people.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Resisted it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I will move on to the decisions that were taken once the information started to become apparent. There has been some disagreement about who had what information when, including from the witnesses on yesterday’s panel. You have already said today that some information was not available to you, or you were not aware of it at the time.

My understanding is that, once you became aware of it, the executive group initially advocated a programme of voluntary severance, and that that was rejected and resisted. Can you explain? Do you recall that? What was your reason for resisting voluntary severance at the time?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Who made that decision?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Yesterday, the chair of court said that she did not make that decision.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I find this particular line of questioning quite difficult to listen to and to match with the evidence that we have in front of us. I have seen communication from Wendy Alexander to the university, which, at various points, highlighted concerns about international student numbers and finances, questioned why specific management accounts were not being provided and, at times, raised pressing and difficult issues, such as the figures being massaged down. It sounds like it was convenient for you to ask her to go far away, so that nobody was presenting a challenge to you at the time.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Did you continue to share relevant data on and numbers of international students with the vice principal?