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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

That is certainly worth considering.

I also want to offer a couple of ideas. The issue is a very good candidate for a member’s bill—I am sure that the committee has noted that. It might be worth discussing that with the committee, and with your constituency and regional MSPs, who might be interested in the idea of sponsoring such a bill. MSPs have certainly been working in that field and it might be of interest to them. That is another potential mechanism by which to achieve the remedy.

I will rest on that, for now, convener.

09:45  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

Certainly, when we look at alternative technologies that are available in other jurisdictions—particularly in London, where there is an automatic fare-capping system that was introduced five or six years ago—we see that there are solutions that could offer a remedy, particularly on intra-Scotland travel as opposed to travel to other parts of the UK. Perhaps it is worth inviting submissions from the likes of Transport for London about its fare-capping technology and how it has been rolled out. That could offer a basis for how a system could be delivered in Scotland.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

It is harrowing to listen to your personal experience and to recognise how deficient the law in Scotland is on the matter. The committee has received a submission setting out the fact that the statutory provisions in other parts of the United Kingdom are much stronger in relation to the statutory offence of child destruction as an aggravating factor.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

I think that the Scottish Government’s response did not address the primary aggravating factor of the death of an unborn child. It was concerned merely with the offence of domestic abuse, and there was no aggravating factor that could be defined in law. In some of the cases in Scotland in which that has happened, the sentences have been particularly light compared with those in other parts of the UK. Do you agree that that is an inadequate response from the Scottish Government?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

It is interesting that there was an idea that issues in the petition have been conflated and that some issues were mixed up around devolved and reserved competences. I thought that it would be worth while trying to unpack that a bit. Certainly, I raised some questions around the interaction between Scottish ministers and UK Government ministers, particularly Alister Jack and Greg Hands. Is it worth inviting those ministers to offer a view regarding the Electricity Act 1989 and the provisions therein? I often think that, when we actually test some of these technical matters, they are often just devolved because people say, “That is probably better over there.”

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

We could add to that correspondence to the Scottish Government a question to ascertain its view on the fare-capping “tap in, tap out” technology. I know that it has been promoted for buses in Scotland, but I have not heard much in relation to rail.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

You mentioned the idea of an amendment rather than the need for a discrete, completely new act. Can you develop your thinking on that a bit more?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

When I read the papers for today’s meeting, I noticed that the Scottish Law Commission’s current work programme includes two projects—one on homicide and one on aspects of family law. Both come close to the topic of the petition, but neither covers the actual issue that has been raised. Another avenue to explore could involve a meeting with the Scottish Law Commission. The committee might be able to facilitate such a meeting to discuss those projects and the potential interface with the particular issue and the deficiencies that you have highlighted today.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

It would perhaps be worth writing to the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and to the 32 local authority education services to ascertain what provision they make within schools. That could help to establish a pattern of activity.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Paul Sweeney

Does that provide a good framework through which the law in Scotland could be brought up to the same level?