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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 April 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

I turn to the point that Mr Follan made about proposed new section 12M of the bill, which is about the reserved procurement process. What is your view on the proposed amendment that would enable the national care service board to procure goods and services on behalf of other public bodies or the Scottish ministers?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

What consultation has been carried out on that between the Government and yourselves? For example, in its submission, Carr Gomm said:

“We do not observe anything in Section 12M that will change the existing approach being used, and so fear that fundamental procurement orthodoxy will continue to dominate at the expense of strategic, collaborative and thoughtful commissioning.”

That point must surely have come up in consultation.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

I thank the witnesses for their answers so far. On commissioning, tendering and procurement, significant concerns have been expressed in written correspondence with the committee in relation to ethical commissioning. Do you believe that ethical commissioning should be referred to and defined in the bill, and, if so, why?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

To what extent do you think that the bill’s provisions and the proposed amendments from the Government offer a more level playing field in tendering for providers? Do you see that aim being progressed with the amendments?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

Can I come back in, convener?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

In your written submission, you state:

“83% of respondents to a CCPS survey of not-for-profit providers said they were providing a public service despite a deficit budget.”

That seems unsustainable to me. How would you address that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

Thank you very much.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

Do you feel that the Government’s proposed amendments would level the playing field? Do you feel confident about that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

Is there potential for market-distorting behaviour from private players in the market? That might be a reason why they are winning contracts but then not performing well. Have you seen evidence of that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Paul Sweeney

No problem.