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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

It is interesting that you used the word “prescriptive”, because the previous panel talked about whether there is a standard of proof—either gender dysphoria or something that takes the place of that—that trans people could meet, which would prove that they are trans before they get a GRC. Is there, in your view, anything that might apply to everyone who is trans in order for them to get a GRC?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

How much does a lack of awareness of the different experiences that trans people have at gender identity clinics and of the different choices that they can legitimately make about their journey have an impact on the public view of what the process for a GRC should be?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

I have no relevant interests.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

I will move on to ask specifically about services. As a representative for the Highlands and Islands, I am very aware that all the current clinics are based in cities. Do you deal with many people who come from rural and island locations? Do people come up against real or perceived barriers when they access your services?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

Absolutely—thank you. Those are all my questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

A lot of my questions have been gone through in great detail, so I will try to avoid retreading.

My question is for Naomi Cunningham. We have heard comments about self-ID and concerns that that could mean expanding the group of people who would be able to obtain a GRC. I am aware that previous witnesses at the committee have described the current process as discriminatory. If there are barriers for people who do not have a lot of money or who live somewhere without easy access to gender identity services, is it not incumbent on us to do exactly that—to expand the group of people who are able to obtain a GRC?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

I will move on to that. There have been quite a few comments on the need for a standard to be met or for proof to be standardised. However, the experience of trans people is as diverse as that of cisgender people. Is it possible, while also respecting trans people’s right to privacy and dignity, to prescribe an experience that they must go through or prove that they have experienced in order to have their identity recognised by the state?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

I suppose that that is my point. The only connecting theme for trans people is that they have changed their gender, so we cannot say, “Well, you must have done this as well.”

I will move on to other issues. Naomi Cunningham commented on the long-term effects on the lives of children who transition and change gender. Do you have any reflections on the long-term effects of 16 to 18-year-olds moving on to a new life at university or somewhere else and having to start that life while living in a gender that is not theirs?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

To be clear about the financial side, the current gatekeeping includes the need to access services, which can be financially prohibitive. There can also be fees associated with seeking medical proof of what a person has been through. There are lots of recognised costs to going through the process as it currently exists, besides applying for a GRC and paying the £5. That is what I was referring to.

If trans people are coming forward to say that barriers exist for them, do we not have a duty to take those barriers down? After Naomi Cunningham, I invite Karon Monaghan to respond to that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Emma Roddick

I want to pin down what you have said. Do you believe that a 16-year-old can be trans?

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