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Yes, thank you. This is specifically to Derek McGowan. I know that there were already moves in the council to address some of the housing pressures prior to the emergency being declared. Has that declaration helped with the urgency for both politicians and officers?

I will pick up Chris Birt’s comments about the private sector. In an ideal situation, how big should the private sector be and what role should it play?

Just before I get to my question, I have a supplementary question for Professor Gibb. Earlier on, you said that there have been unintended consequences of well-intentioned policies. Can you be specific on that?

How do we learn from that? Is it necessary to have caps in between tenancies?

My next question is for the whole panel. From what you have seen, based on where there have been declared housing emergencies—or whatever language has been used—have such moves had a direct impact on the behaviour of and approaches that are being taken by politicians and officials working at various levels of government? Chris, do you want to go first?

Briefly, many of the actions sound more long term and less as though they are an emergency response. Would both work streams have to be going on at once, or is it legitimate to take an emergency short-term view before we move on to planning, land and taxation issues?

Good morning, minister. Under what circumstances would you expect to use the power to amend an adopted national planning framework?

Finally, it is important to highlight that decisions around frameworks, development plans and similar things can be a great way for local people to have an active input into what their area does or does not need, without it being about a specific application. Folk often wait to object to individual applications, rather than feeding in at those stages.

What can councils, national Government, other individuals and members of this committee do to encourage participation in local development plan consultations, including on the amendments between each full review?

Okay. Why have you chosen the issues of combating rural depopulation, protecting disused rail infrastructure and preserving peatland as worthy of special consideration in the drafting of amendments?

I make it clear that I am disappointed in the approach that has been taken. I feel that we have not had clarity on the reason for the SSI lasting until 2030, which is a point that many witnesses raised with us. It would probably have been easier for committee members to consider those views and take them forward, had conversations about the SSI happened further in advance. Had the timescales in question been shorter—say, 2027—the option would always have been there for the minister to come back and discuss with us any need for the period to be extended.

That said, I do not feel that I can vote to defer this SSI again, because the minister has made it clear that payments might not be made to farmers. It is not a position that the committee should be put in, and I regret that we have not been able to discuss it more openly.