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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

On the point about reliability, Aviemore might have triggered only one cold weather payment—or maybe none—this winter, but, in other years, it could be looking at three or four. Is extra help available to people in such places if there is a very bad winter?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

I thought you were going to ask that. It is exactly what I am about to address. Is it going to go far? No. We must be clear, however, that energy does not need to cost that much. I would much prefer that the UK Government took some action on energy companies instead of allowing them to take advantage of the situation and bankroll their eye-watering profits. If we are going to listen to criticism today about there being not enough social security going to the problem, we need at least to acknowledge the cause.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

That would be the ideal scenario.

Pam Duncan-Glancy mentioned a “finger in a dam”, but we need at least to ask why there is a flood. More money will be spent on the scheme than was spent on cold weather payments. More of my constituents are going to benefit from it, as will more of hers. It is not the only measure that is aimed at supporting people through the winter. There is also the fuel insecurity fund, the islands cost crisis emergency fund and other benefits that are being delivered by Social Security Scotland. People who are in receipt of those are therefore not going to receive £50 only. That £50 is more of a winter uplift of sorts.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

Finally, we heard last week that those with the greatest need for help in paying energy bills are affected by other issues such as needing energy efficiency measures in their home and improvements in the wider context of UK energy policy. How is the minister working with other portfolios in Government to make sure that there is investment to reduce the need for social security?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

Since last week’s meeting, we have had some helpful information from the Scottish Parliament information centre about which weather stations have triggered cold weather payments in the past, and how many times. Six of the seven areas with the highest level of fuel poverty are in my region—the Highlands and Islands—but some of those areas, such as Stornoway, have not triggered any cold weather payment in many years. Where they have done so—for example, in Wick, Lerwick and Kirkwall—there tends to be one trigger a year, despite the challenges that exist there. Will the winter heating payment be a move in the right direction in tackling fuel poverty?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

Thanks, minister.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

A few colleagues have talked about the coldest parts of Scotland but have often missed out my region, the Highlands and Islands. We must be clear: cold weather payments are not going to the coldest places in Scotland. They are certainly not going to the coldest homes in Scotland. Rather, they are going to the coldest weather stations. The minister addressed the fact that wind chill is not measured and that six days of -2°C will not trigger a payment. The people who struggle the most with energy bills in my region are in the Western Isles, the Northern Isles and areas of the Highlands. They have not been getting cold weather payments, but they are going to get £50 this winter.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

I want to go back to the timeline issue, because the minister touched on the data. Could he outline, first, what preparations are taking place at Social Security Scotland in order to be ready to make the payments in February and say how reliance on the DWP for that data adds complexity to the delivery?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Emma Roddick

Yes, I support a stronger windfall tax than what has been proposed.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Emma Roddick

That is really clear. We need to recognise that -1°C will feel like -1°C in a lot of places but that, in many island and rural communities, it will feel like -5°C and there is no protection from wind. Will the winter heating payment be easier to build on than the cold weather payment? What would you like to see happen to make it more effective at tackling fuel poverty?