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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 January 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

You have assured us that there will not be an underspend, but if there were, what would that mean for people living in affected buildings and for upcoming programmes in future years?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That is great. We appreciate the updates on cladding.

The committee has been addressing an area that is kind of similar but different to cladding: reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. Meghan Gallacher has some questions, possibly on cladding but also on RAAC.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

This question is about uptake and behaviour change. Annex 3 assumes that there will be a 45 per cent uptake of low-carbon measures across the sector, but as implementation of many of those measures will start in 2030, that will leave few policy-driven reductions for carbon budget 1. I want to get a sense from you of the bottom line. Is that realistic? In practice, what tends to limit uptake at that scale in farming systems and what helps change to spread beyond the early adopters?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I was interested in Jackie Baillie’s solution involving fish counters. My understanding is that fish counters already feed into the annual assessment through the fish counter network, but I wonder whether there is a concern that the network is not comprehensive, that the counters are not in the right rivers or that the data is not being weighted properly.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thanks. I will ask a question later about sequestration.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Donna Smith said that we need to look at where meat comes from and that we are importing cheap imports. It strikes me that we have a challenge there. In Scotland, we are trying to meet our 2045 net zero emissions target, yet we are beholden to the supermarkets where that meat comes from. We are trying to do things with farmers on the ground, but the supply chain and the way in which people can buy their food create a limiting factor.

I went to visit Jock Gibson, a farmer in Moray who does mob grazing, which is incredible. He can do that because he has the family butcher in Forres high street, so the animals that he raises on the farm end up in the local butcher and feed local people. That does not happen when we are beholden to a supermarket system, which is where the majority of people in Scotland shop.

The Government does not have the powers to deal with the fact that supermarkets are just going to keep on importing. We have trading arrangements with the likes of Australia, so we are bringing in sheep that have experienced poor animal welfare. There is a bigger challenge around stemming that flood and helping people in Scotland to start to eat locally produced food.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That would be great.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. I am trying to bust the jargon, but that is fascinating. Somebody wanting to put in hedgerows but not being able to have gaps and so on goes back to what you talked about, which is that we need to look at all the integrated practices holistically so that they work really well together and actually help us to meet our climate and emissions reduction targets. Thanks for that specific example.

What about agroforestry? Are there any good incentives to get farmers to pursue that yet?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I want to pick up on something that Claire Daly was kind of saying. In the previous panel, Nim Kibbler talked about how we need to move away from looking just at cow numbers. I think that she meant that, rather than looking at the cow, we should look at the practices of the herdsman or woman. It is not just about having a cow, but about how you work with a cow. In that earlier evidence session, I mentioned that I had gone to see the work of Jock Gibson in Moray. My sense is that we could be looking at more farmers doing that kind of practice across the whole of Scotland. We could keep a certain number of cattle, and then there is the balancing act of the size of throughput that is required to keep the abattoirs running and all that kind of stuff. Could we be looking at smaller herds in more places? I also guess that she was getting at the holistic aspect of how the cattle or sheep are raised.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Do you have a sense, from your work on the farm, what would work?