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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is great.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I hope that everyone had a great recess. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent. We have received apologies for this meeting from Fulton MacGregor.

The first item on our agenda is a decision on whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is to take evidence from two panels of witnesses as part of our scrutiny of the proposed national good food nation plan. For our first panel, we are joined in the room by Hugh Carr, director of strategic procurement and commissioning, and Laura Muir, strategic procurement manager, who are both from Scotland Excel; Nicola Joiner, the national chair of Assist FM; and Andrew Kennedy, the head of facilities and property management at East Ayrshire Council. We are joined online by Phil Mackie, a consultant in public health and prevention lead at Aberdeen city health and social care partnership, who is representing Aberdeen City Council. I warmly welcome everyone to the meeting.

We have about 60 minutes for discussion. I will open the questions. I have told the witnesses in the room that members will let them know if their question is initially directed to them. If members could do that, that would be great.

I have a general question for everybody, but I will come to Nicky Joiner first. I am interested in how your organisation will be impacted by the proposed good food nation plan and how it will fit with existing plans and strategies that are already in place.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

We can hear you very well.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

You mentioned a couple of councils, such as Shetland. Do we know where they are all at?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will bring in Alexander Stewart on procurement and the good food nation plan.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will bring in Andrew Kennedy first, to be followed by Phil Mackie, who indicated that he wanted to come in on a previous question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is a really good point. Some of the work that we are talking about relates to a cultural shift around food. Learning how to grow food and, indeed, what it takes to grow something that is not riddled with caterpillar holes is important, as it allows you to understand that it is actually very challenging.

Meghan Gallacher has questions on measuring impact.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

I warmly welcome our second panel. We are joined by Anna Chworow, who is deputy director at Nourish Scotland, and Emilie Combet, who is a commissioner at the new Scottish Food Commission. We are also joined online by Jane Beasley, who is the director of circular economy delivery at Zero Waste Scotland.

We have around 60 minutes for this discussion. I say to our witnesses that there is no need to operate the microphones. Jane, if you would like to comment, please indicate that online and I will bring you in. I will start with a couple of questions on plans, working together and collaboration. As we are a bit pressed for time, please do not feel that you have to answer every question, unless you have an additional point to add to the discussion.

The Highland Good Food Partnership stated that the good food nation plan

“does not propose any new actions and targets, neither does it commit to new indicators or areas of policy development.”

I will direct this first question at Anna Chworow, initially, as I am interested in understanding Nourish’s perspective. Would you agree with that assessment?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. Do our other witnesses agree?