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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great. Thank you very much for that. Graham, come on in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a question about current building materials and approaches to building design. Do you have any concerns about materials or design that could lead to RAAC-like problems in the future? If you had a sense of that, what would we need to do now to prevent such problems from arising?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

We have a few more questions on damp and mould and then we have quite a few questions on RAAC. We do not have a hard and fast time slot, but we are about 15 minutes away from when we agreed to move on to the next panel. We will need to keep our questions and responses succinct and to the point. If you do not have anything to add, that is okay—do not feel that you have to. If you have a different view, we certainly want to hear that.

That is probably all that I need to say about keeping our responses succinct. We will probably run 15 minutes over, so we might go until 11 o’clock. Ideally, we aim to end at quarter to 11, but we might need a bit more time to address the RAAC issues.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. I do not see anyone else indicating that they want to come in on that question. It seems that Emma Saunders has covered it well.

We will seamlessly move on to our questions on RAAC. Fulton MacGregor, if you want to continue with that, that would be great.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Certainly, the committee has been interested in the idea of keeping an inventory of what goes into houses and that kind of thing.

Emma Saunders wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Does anybody else want to come in on that one briefly, or has Yvette Hoskins covered it? Certainly, 3,000 people is a lot of people to meet.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is great. You have been quiet for so long and now you get the opportunity. It is wonderful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Yvette, you are doing such a great job. Thank you.

I have a final question about the impact that the presence of RAAC in homes is having on owners’ and tenants’ ability to obtain building and contents insurance. You touched on that and on mortgages, but my question is specifically about insurance. I have a further, connected question. Is there anything that you think the Scottish Government could do to support people in the affected properties in that regard?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

For our second panel this morning we are joined by Peter Drummond, who is the chair of the practice committee at the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland, and Gloria Lo of OiSA Designs, who is a chartered architect. We will try to direct our questions to one or other of you specifically, but please do indicate to the clerks if you would like to come in. There is no need for you to operate your microphones; we will do that for you.

We will start with damp and mould and, before we get into specific questions about tenants and landlords and what people should or should not be doing, I thought that it would be good if we could get a bit of an understanding of the technical issues.

Gloria Lo, I am particularly directing this question at you. Some of those issues were highlighted earlier by the previous panel. I think that Shona Gorman mentioned that we need to get to the underbelly of the issue before we start saying, “This is what we should be doing.” It seems that that is part of the problem: we do not fully understand everything. I will give you a little bit of time to open that up, then we will come to a number of other questions in this area.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great. Thank you very much for that. I found that useful and I hope that colleagues did, too. There are specific points, such as how we design a home that keeps us out of that zone of 13°C and 80 to 83 per cent humidity, that are potentially quite an interesting challenge.

Now we will get into some of our other questions. Peter Drummond, feel free to come in on this one. I would be interested to hear whether you have any views on how landlords in Scotland are addressing damp and mould in properties that they own. Are there any examples of good practice or are there other approaches that could be taken to deal with the problem?