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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is helpful. If you would send on that detail, that would be great.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

It would be good to understand that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I want to pick up on a few points. In the Parliament, we hear quite a bit about co-design from the Government. This may just be a comment, but we hear “co-design” and then we hear “dissatisfaction”, not just on this committee or on this particular issue. Before I got this job, I used to do design thinking. Is something in the co-design process causing that dissatisfaction? Is there a process that is clearly laid out for the people that you are working with? The double diamond process is an example of a model that gets used a lot. Do people really understand the process that you are taking them through?

Another point is that people are burnt out with consultation. We have heard from colleagues elsewhere that people do not feel as if they are really being heard. It goes beyond being listened to. It is one thing to be listened to, but it is another thing to be heard—you see that there is an outcome because somebody has heard what you have to say.

There is something interesting in there about process, and it leads on to my next point. Last night, the cross-party group on crofting met. The suckler beef SSI came up again as a concern, as well as general concern about the design and roll-out of the system. SSIs are coming—potentially, they will be coming thick and fast; we are not sure—and we do not have a lot of time to scrutinise them.

Minister, it was good to hear that you have visited crofters and built those connections and relationships. I want to get a sense that you are working with crofters, and other farmers before the committee even sees the SSIs—“behind the curtain”, as I would put it—so that people have time to contribute to the co-design in a genuine way. Last night, quite a bit of concern was expressed about that in relation to crofters’ experience.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

It was on headage, which you covered, convener.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Okay, but how do you make sure that what people such as that farmer say when they meet you feeds into the co-design of the policy that will affect them on the ground in the future? It is one thing to meet people, but how do you ensure that that shows up in the policy?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for that, Aoife. It certainly sounds like a pretty horrendous experience. My colleagues and I are getting similar cases in our inboxes; indeed, that is why we have picked up on and are pursuing this area in our evidence taking.

Does anybody else want to come in or add anything?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great. Thank you very much for that. Graham, come on in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a question about current building materials and approaches to building design. Do you have any concerns about materials or design that could lead to RAAC-like problems in the future? If you had a sense of that, what would we need to do now to prevent such problems from arising?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

We have a few more questions on damp and mould and then we have quite a few questions on RAAC. We do not have a hard and fast time slot, but we are about 15 minutes away from when we agreed to move on to the next panel. We will need to keep our questions and responses succinct and to the point. If you do not have anything to add, that is okay—do not feel that you have to. If you have a different view, we certainly want to hear that.

That is probably all that I need to say about keeping our responses succinct. We will probably run 15 minutes over, so we might go until 11 o’clock. Ideally, we aim to end at quarter to 11, but we might need a bit more time to address the RAAC issues.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. I do not see anyone else indicating that they want to come in on that question. It seems that Emma Saunders has covered it well.

We will seamlessly move on to our questions on RAAC. Fulton MacGregor, if you want to continue with that, that would be great.