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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
Shona Gorman, you have not indicated that you want to respond. Do you want to come in on Annie Wells’s question?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
The next item is to take evidence from two separate panels of witnesses on damp and mould in social and private rented housing. The purpose of the session is to try to understand the extent of the problem in the rental sector in Scotland and to ask whether the regulatory framework provides sufficient protection to tenants.
On panel 1, we are joined in the room by Debbie King, who is the head of advocacy at Shelter Scotland. We are joined online by Aoife Deery, who is the senior social justice policy officer at Citizens Advice Scotland; Emma Saunders, who is the national organiser at Living Rent; and Shona Gorman, who is the chair of the central Scotland regional network of tenants and residents. I welcome the witnesses to the meeting.
I will start the questions. I am interested in understanding the scale of the problem. The information in our briefing papers is that the latest Scottish house condition survey, which was published in 2019, estimated that relatively few of Scotland’s homes suffered from dampness and condensation. Ninety-one per cent of all homes in all tenures—that is social, private rented and owner-occupied housing—were free from damp and condensation. Around 54,000 homes were estimated to have rising and/or penetrating damp, and around 192,000 homes were estimated to have condensation. Of course, any home with damp or mould is one too many. I would be interested to hear from Debbie King first, then we will go to the folk who are online.
I forgot to mention that anyone online who wishes to come in should type R in the chat and we will bring you in. You do not have to answer every single question. Debbie King should get the attention of the clerks, and then we will bring you in.
I am interested to hear your thoughts on the scale of the problem of dampness and mould in rented housing. For example, is it more prevalent in particular housing types or geographical areas?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
What would we need to do to get accurate data? Is there something that we could bring forward in Parliament that would make that a requirement?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
Shona, would you like to come in?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
Shona Gorman, would you like to come in on this point?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thanks very much for that. Shona Gorman, did you want to come in?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
We move on to questions from Ivan McKee.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thank you very much. We will hear from the SHR in two weeks’ time. That is a good point that we can put to it. Debbie King, do you want to come in?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
Emma Saunders. [Interruption.] I think that you are on, Emma.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Ariane Burgess
Good morning and welcome to the 13th meeting in 2023 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent and that all other notifications are turned off during the meeting.
The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take item 4 in private. Do members agree to take that item in private?
Members indicated agreement.