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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 January 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Our second item is the consideration of evidence from the Minister for Environment and Land Reform on our post-legislative scrutiny of part 9 of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015. Last year, we undertook an inquiry and published a report on part 9 of the 2015 act. The Scottish Government has responded to that report, and this is our chance to explore that response.

We are joined by Màiri McAllan, Minister for Environment and Land Reform, who is accompanied in person today by James Hamilton, the branch head of food and drink trade in the Scottish Government legal directorate, and Tracy McCollin, the head of the good food nation team at the Scottish Government. We are joined online by Simon Bonsall, who is the senior planner from planning, architecture and regeneration division at the Scottish Government. I warmly welcome our witnesses to the meeting and invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

From what I have heard you say—correct me if I have picked it up wrongly—it seems that, if there is such a thing as a plan hierarchy, the local food strategy that comes out of part 9 of the 2015 act will probably sit underneath the good food nation plan. Is that how it will fit?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that. We move to another area.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for outlining that so clearly. I wish to go a little deeper. You already touched on the fact that you will get £15 million from the energy budget, and you talked about the bonds. I am interested to hear a bit more detail on the impact that the reduction might have on the affordable housing supply programme, wider Scottish Government priorities and the outcomes to which new affordable homes contribute, such as the net zero agenda—I imagine that the money coming from the energy budget helps with that—reducing child poverty and supporting fragile rural and island communities with new affordable homes.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

There is the national test programme, which does carbon audits, but the farm advisory service was doing that as well, and you mentioned that that fund is exhausted. Are you going to continue with the farm advisory service funding of carbon audits, or will you switch to make it all streamlined into the national test programme?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

So, you are creating different doors, in a way, for people to go through to get their carbon audit.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

You mentioned other technologies. You talked about the roll-out of REM, but is there any other technology that you could use in the light of the introduction of HPMAs and MPAs?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

That would be welcome. I have spoken to young farmers, who tend to be on smaller pieces of land, and they have a lot of passion and ideas for innovation but do not have the capacity. They are trying to do the work on the land, but they are finding the application process onerous and feel that they need a degree in grant writing in order to access the funding. It is good to hear that you are assessing that.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

I am heartened to hear about the two RIBs to bolster inshore protection.

I have read in detail about the data and intelligence that are used, but I would be interested in understanding more fully what you mean by a “risk-based system” or approach. Obviously, it is based on intelligence, but one concern that I hear from stakeholders and coastal communities is that, if an MPA is encroached on, the damage is done.

You talked about the blue economy. We have a greater understanding that blue carbon is part of protecting our blue economy, but it seems to me that, at the moment, we do not have that. You said that we could not patrol all of our coastal waters all of the time, but I have a concern that encroachment can happen and that damage can be done very quickly, and the speed with which Marine Scotland’s enforcement and protection vessels arrive means that they are too late to stop something happening. What is your thinking in relation to the long term, especially when we are talking about highly protected marine areas, which invite a change of behaviour and a change of understanding?

These conversations are all about the long-term protection of the fisheries that you support in your role as fisheries minister. We are trying to protect inshore waters so that we have fisheries for the future. Enforcement seems to play a really important role in that, and I do not think that we have the capacity to do that properly yet, so I would like to understand more about the risk-based system.