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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 October 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We have quite a few questions to get through. I ask colleagues to direct their question to somebody initially, and witnesses should put an R in the chat function if they have something to add. I definitely want to hear from everybody, but if we keep going around everyone for all the questions, we will run over time quite considerably.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will try to bring in Henry Simmons again. Henry, can you respond or add anything from the Alzheimer Scotland perspective on the problems with the way that social care is delivered and the postcode lottery piece? Do we need to legislate to bring about the improvement?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

That brings us to the end of our questions. Thank you so much for keeping the answers short. Stephanie, I noticed that you were cut off when you were saying something that might be important to convey. If you would put that in writing, I would welcome it.

Thank you for joining us this morning. It has been useful for the committee to hear from all of you and to hear the various perspectives.

I suspend the meeting for five minutes to allow for a change of witnesses.

12:01 Meeting suspended.  

12:06 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you, Sophie. Mike Burns would like to come in as well.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will continue with another question and will start with you, Mike. If others want to come in, please indicate so in the chat function.

The committee has heard from others that the proposed national care service is a disproportionate solution to address some of the challenges that you have all laid out this morning. I am keen to hear your views on whether legislation is needed to bring about improvements. Is there another way in which we could approach needs in a more joined-up way and do the things that you have discussed?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

It does not look as though anyone else wants to come in on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Stephanie Fraser and Mike Burns want to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for flagging up that aspect, Hannah.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I again remind everyone that it would be good if we could keep our questions and answers succinct. I also reiterate to members that they should direct their questions to one person to start with, and I remind witnesses that they can put an R in the chat function when they have something additional to share.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

The point is that, although people might not use hounds now and Mr Hogg would never use a hound, somebody might do so once the legislation comes into play. We are not talking about how people are doing this at the moment.

I totally get the “one for the pot” idea. That is all well and good, but when the legislation comes in, it might be used by people who consciously choose to find a way through it by saying, “We’re on a rough shoot.” That is what they will plan to do, and they will not be people who genuinely want to do rough shooting, but people who want to have a mounted hunt.