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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 February 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

What wider measures are you considering?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

We will probably dig into that a bit more as we go on.

The last time that you were here, you talked about the need to improve productivity in your office. I would be interested to understand how that has progressed. Has improved productivity been part of the reason for the numbers going up? Are those things connected?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

For our second panel, we are joined from the Standards Commission for Scotland by Lorna Johnston, the executive director, and Suzanne Vestri, the convener. I welcome you both to the meeting. There is no need for you to turn on your microphones, as we will do that for you. I invite Suzanne Vestri to make a brief opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Last time around, we discussed making the code of conduct training mandatory, and we have heard back about that from local authorities. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that update. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the 2021 code of conduct. Has it improved standards and behaviour? How is that being measured, if at all, and what sense do you have of any improvement in outcomes?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Okay. That is great.

Suzanne, in your opening remarks it was great to get the breakdown of the staffing and all that you accomplish with such a small team. The expenditure of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission was over £2 million in 2024-25. How do I put this? Are you providing value for money? In what ways are we getting value for money for the public purse?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

It is good to get more detail.

It is interesting that you say that the work has helped to shift the perception away from the 1970s backhanders, but I think there are pockets of people across the country who still have that mistrust—I come across that in my work. Maybe I am just confirming that the work that you do is essential.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Annual Reports of the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland 2024-25

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

We are definitely getting a lot of things lined up.

That concludes our questions. Thank you, Lorna and Suzanne, for your evidence this morning.

We previously agreed to take the next items on our agenda in private, so that concludes the public part of the meeting.

10:52 Meeting continued in private until 11:05.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

I am now speaking on behalf of Ross Greer. His amendment 171 would require a target to be set for the population size and the extent of our amazing native red squirrel population. Reds have been under pressure since North American grey squirrels were spread across the United Kingdom by the 11th Duke of Bedford in the 1890s. The red squirrel population has declined for decades, but recent conservation efforts have resulted in what could be the beginning of a turnaround.

The amendment specifies a target for the extent of the reds’ geographical spread, as well as their population size, because at present the red population is quite heavily concentrated in certain areas, which puts them at risk from the spread of disease. Red squirrels are truly iconic as a Scottish species—80 per cent of the UK’s total red squirrel population is here in Scotland. Recent efforts have shown that we can stop their slide towards extinction, but more action and accountability are needed if we are to reverse the damage that has been done over the past century.

09:30  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Given the keenness that we have around the table to address the restoration of nature—30 per cent of land by 2030—I am seeking to introduce biodiversity targets under the new sections of the 2004 act on setting, reviewing and reporting on targets.

My amendment 47 would require the Scottish ministers to take a more holistic approach when setting targets, ensuring that they are aligned with existing Government frameworks and policies. Targets would have to be ecologically coherent, meaning that they would be representative, connected and well managed. NatureScot has used that concept and published a report on the definition of ecological coherence. The amendment would also require ministers to use a wholescape approach, essentially recognising that land and sea are interconnected habitats, as well as the range of cultural and economic activities that take place between them.

My amendment 48 would require ministers to have regard to existing Government frameworks and policies so that policies are aligned across departments and agencies.