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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that. Out of curiosity, your local priorities are the climate, poverty and what else?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will dig a little bit deeper on changes in behaviours. Will you give us an example, or examples, of a change that would build that trust?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Sarah Watters wants to come in on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks, Sarah. Cleland, would you like to share your view on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2022 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. Mark Griffin and Annie Wells are joining us remotely today. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent and that all other notifications are turned off during the meeting.

The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take agenda items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Do you want to direct your question to someone? Pick on someone first.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

We have certainly been taking evidence to a great extent on the national care service, but it is good to hear those perspectives.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Does anybody have any experience of that? I see that we have lost Shaun Macaulay, who might have been able to answer that question more fully.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

My amendment 14 removes the exception that would allow the use of up to two dogs as part of falconry, game shooting and deer stalking. I thank Colin Smyth for supporting it.

Falconry, game shooting and deer stalking are legal in Scotland, but that does not justify the use of dogs when that has such impact on animal welfare that the Scottish Government is introducing legislation to make it, by and large, an offence. Why should there be an exception from that offence for sport, of all purposes? I support the Scottish SPCA’s calls for a complete ban on the use of dogs in sport, which would require removing section 6. Further, we cannot allow that exception to be another loophole for fox hunts, as in England, where hunts have been known to carry birds of prey as a token presence to circumvent the two-dog limit there.

I urge committee members to consider every amendment from that point of view. Could it be used as a loophole? If falconry, game shooting and deer stalking for sport must persist, those activities should have to be done without the use of dogs.

Amendments 2, 4, 6 and 8 are consequential on amendment 14. They would simply remove all references to section 6 from sections 1 and 2, which define the offences under the bill.

Colin Smyth’s amendment 123 would remove falconry for sport but not game shooting or deer stalking from the field sports exception. I support the amendment and urge members to vote for it in case my amendment 14 is disagreed to. I also support Colin Smyth’s amendment 146, which would remove the restrictive definition of “game shooting” from section 6 and would mean that using dogs while shooting game birds would be subject to the same conditions.

I will not support Rachael Hamilton’s amendments 132 to 139, 227, 228, 142 and 143. I urge the committee to support amendments 2, 4, 6 8 and 14, and Colin Smyth’s amendments 123 and 146, and to vote against Rachael Hamilton’s amendments.

I move amendment 2.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

I thank Colin Smyth, Rachael Hamilton and Edward Mountain for lodging and speaking to their amendments in this group. We are legislating for a future Scotland and, as we must respond appropriately and urgently to the climate and nature emergency, it will be a very different Scotland. Rural Scotland and its economy and practices must change.

Colin Smyth’s amendments would result in greater protection for wild mammals, which is the key purpose of the bill, so I will support them. However, in order to afford wild mammals even greater protection, we should remove the relevant section completely, so I urge members to also vote for my amendments in the group.

Again, I cannot support Edward Mountain’s or Rachael Hamilton’s amendments in this group, as the majority of them serve to weaken protection for wild mammals and loosen that loophole.