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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
Something else that came up in our conversations was a concern that, in some situations, inspections show that the materials that were set out in building plans in the first place were not then used. We heard that in relation to a number of points across the building. That relates to Willie Coffey’s point about people not knowing what their homes and buildings are made of. Perhaps the Parliament can look at that in the longer term.
Thank you for your comments. We will hear from the Scottish Government bill team for the Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill next week.
We agreed at the start of the meeting to take the next three items in private. As that was the last public item on our agenda, I close the public part of the meeting.
12:03 Meeting continued in private until 12:28.Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
Okay. Thanks for that.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thank you for seeking that bit of detail, Miles.
That concludes our questions. I thank the minister and his officials for the evidence that they have given.
We turn to agenda item 5, which is consideration of the motion on the draft regulations. I invite the minister to move motion S6M-11186.
Motion moved,
That the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee recommends that the Council Tax (Variation for Unoccupied Dwellings) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Tom Arthur]
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
The committee will publish a report setting out its recommendation on the draft regulations in the coming days.
I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow the minister and his officials to leave before we move on to our next agenda item.
11:53 Meeting suspended.Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
Agenda item 2 is to take evidence on the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman’s annual report 2022-23. Rosemary Agnew is our ombudsman; Andrew Sheridan is the SPSO’s head of improvement, standards and engagement; and Niki Maclean is the SPSO’s director.
I invite Rosemary Agnew to make a short opening statement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
I have a couple of questions around the public petition relating to the SPSO, which the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee is considering. Among other things, the petition calls for an independent review to
“establish whether the current legislation governing the SPSO is fit for purpose.”
Given that you are also pushing for legislative change, I would be interested to hear whether you agree that, 20 years after the legislation to set up the SPSO, a review might be required. If so, who do you think should conduct that review?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
That is certainly a good point: not everybody complains, but there are people who are sitting on something with which they could really do with some help and support. Thanks for unpacking that a bit. It was very helpful.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
I will bring in Pam Gosal for a supplementary question.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
Thank you very much for that very thorough introduction and for getting into some of the detail about homelessness. Thank you, too, for highlighting your awareness of the fact that more data needs to be gathered on damp and mould, which has become an issue that the committee has taken on.
In your opening statement, you mentioned the challenging operating environment for social landlords and the financial pressures on tenants. I would be interested to hear how that has impacted on your regulatory approach and what that means for tenants and other service users and landlords.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 5 December 2023
Ariane Burgess
It is very helpful to hear that that is your approach.
You spoke extensively about the thematic review of homelessness, and you covered part of the question that I was going to ask you. You mentioned that a number of local authorities are not able to comply or meet needs. How are you monitoring how those councils are making progress and moving towards compliance?