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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 January 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

We will move on to questions from Fulton MacGregor, who is joining us online. [Interruption.] Fulton, your mic is not on yet. Hang on a minute. This is where we get to have a little pause and catch our breath.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That would be great.

Willie Coffey is not done with his questions, but we will move to Mark Griffin for the moment and then come back to him.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I will broaden the discussion a little bit, because it has been flagged to the committee that transport is one of the hardest areas in which to get a shift, whether that is modal shift or something else.

I saw nodding heads. Do you recognise, through the climate change plan, that transport is the hardest area, and that we therefore may need additional financial support and clearer recognition in that space to support local authorities with initiatives such as EV roll-out and integrated ticketing? Willie Coffey highlighted the very good example of park and ride, which would support behavioural change among people who want to take public transport.

What does the Government see in that regard? We have the Verity house agreement, so local authorities are empowered to do their own thing, but it is the Government’s climate change plan. What kind financial support would come with that acknowledgement?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for setting out those examples. Are you looking at integrated ticketing? Even though we have the Verity house agreement, it would make sense for ticketing to be a national process, given that people travel throughout the country. For example, I travel from Moray through numerous local authorities to arrive at Edinburgh. Will integrated ticketing be considered at a national level?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I have a couple of questions about data. I represent the Highlands and Islands, and when, in 2021, I went off to visit folks around the region, I met and spoke to climate officers across local authorities. At that point, their feeling was, “Oh right, we’re in this new role. What are we measuring against? What are our benchmarks? What are we all trying to do? Is there anything coherent?”

At that time, there was no sense of everyone having to do the same thing, so we had local authorities doing different things. Is the aim of the Scottish Climate Intelligence Service to get some coherence and create a bit of a benchmarking framework, to ensure that local authorities are looking at, and we are measuring and monitoring, the same things?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Right.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thanks—that is great.

Going back to the conversation on early warning indicators, I note that annex 3 of the plan relies on those indicators, while the plan, in general, seems to be going for more of a back-loading approach. We seem to have a lot of staging grounds and a lot of preparation happening up to 2030, and then suddenly, somehow, we have to move very quickly.

That raises a lot of questions about confidence. I am concerned about the fact that a lot is going to come towards the end of session 7. After all, 2030 is pretty much the last year of that parliamentary session, and then we will suddenly be into session 8—and that is when we are going to get some movement. Have you been thinking about the timing?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

The next item is an evidence-taking session on the 2026-27 budget with Màiri McAllan, the Cabinet Secretary for Housing. We are also joined by the following witnesses from the Scottish Government: Sean Neill, director for housing; Kirsty Henderson, acting head of performance and finance in the more homes division; Kersti Berge, director of energy and climate change; Gareth Fenney, interim deputy director of heat in buildings delivery; and Stephen Lea-Ross, director of cladding remediation. I welcome you all to the meeting. There is no need for you to turn on the microphones. We will do that for you.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Great—thank you.

You mentioned the construction sector. Construction inflation and viability are clearly central to whether homes get built. I would be interested to get a sense of what assumptions you are using for construction cost increases over the next four years. Do you expect the grant per home to keep rising, or do you expect the sector to absorb more of the costs?