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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
I am sure that that will be heartening news to the people who own the buildings.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
Thank you very much.
That concludes our questions. We have had yet another very helpful panel this morning, and we are certainly getting a much clearer picture of all the different permutations and of how we can make this a good piece of legislation that will meet people’s needs. It is quite challenging, but it has been really good to hear from you.
As previously agreed, we will take the next three items in private. That was the last public item on our agenda, so I now close the public part of the meeting.
11:57 Meeting continued in private until 12:33.Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2024 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent and that all other notifications are turned off during the meeting.
The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take business in private. Do members agree to take items 3 and 4 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
Thanks for that. We now turn to questions from members. Please indicate if you would like to come in to respond to a member’s question or to something else that has been said. For those of you who are joining us online, please indicate if you would like to respond to a question by putting an R in the chat function. Some of our questions will be directed specifically to one person, potentially because they have the expertise on that subject. The intention is that this should be a free-flowing conversation rather than a question-and-answer session, so let us see how we get on with that.
I will begin with a couple of questions. What is your perspective on the fact that the Scottish Government has not publicly consulted on the proposals in the bill? Have your organisations had any opportunity to input into its development and, if so, how effective has the engagement been in improving the bill that we are considering?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
That is very helpful.
I will bring in Alan McAulay, who is online. Has Local Authority Building Standards Scotland been involved?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
Thank you. Jim McGonigal, has the Institution of Fire Engineers been involved?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
I will stay with you for my second question, but anyone else can come in on it. I am interested in your thoughts on the focus and scope of the bill. Should the bill focus solely on cladding remediation or should it extend to cover all fire safety issues—or even all significant building safety matters?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
The committee heard last week from developers that there is an issue that, for example, doors might since have been changed, which goes beyond the scope of the developer because that is not how they left the building at the time.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
Jim McGonigal wishes to come in on that.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 30 January 2024
Ariane Burgess
I know that Alan McAulay and Jim McGonigal want to come in, but I will first invite Pam Gosal to ask her next question. Maybe witnesses can answer it, as well.