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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 February 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

The next item on our agenda is an evidence session on the draft climate change plan, and we are joined today by two panels of witnesses. On the first panel of witnesses, with whom we will focus on the role of local authorities in delivering the draft plan, are: Craig Hatton, climate change lead, Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers; Councillor Gail Macgregor, environmental and economy spokesperson, and Robert Nicol, chief officer, environment and economy, Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; George Tarvit, director, Sustainable Scotland Network; and Clare Wharmby, co-director, Scottish Climate Intelligence Service. I welcome you all to the meeting. You do not need to turn your microphones on; we will operate them for you.

I will start our questions with a general one about the current position with council delivery on net zero. To what extent do you have the sense that the current draft of the climate change plan would help you drive the progress that needs to happen? Gail, if I could start with you, that would be super.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

Robert Nicol wants to come in, and then I will come back in with a supplementary.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

I wonder whether the message is filtering across. Gail Macgregor mentioned the £750 million shortfall in social care. Money and budgets are tight and we do not quite know what we will get until next year. One concern that I have had flagged to me is that, in some local authority areas, there are questions about the role of the climate team, which suggests that we are going backwards. Are local authorities getting the message that they need to prioritise this?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

Sure. Certainly, climate is one of the Government’s three stated collaborations under the Verity house agreement, so I would hope to see good funding in that space.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

Thank you for that.

I have another quick question. The building materials are an issue, but so is what we are building. I have an interest in co-housing. That relates to the aspect that Clare Wharmby brought into the conversation, which is that we do not immediately think, “This is directly related to climate change and reducing our carbon emissions.” The national planning framework 4 talks about placemaking and local neighbourhoods, which, in cities, are 20-minute neighbourhoods. In other communities, it talks about sustainable living. In rural communities, they are not quite 20-minute neighbourhoods.

Co-housing offers the idea of built-in community, which involve a lot more shared resources—shared spaces and shared transport. There is a natural fit between co-housing and things such as car sharing. Mention has been made of the need to look at other countries. Co-housing is embedded in the Danish system—municipalities take it into consideration when they develop their equivalent of local development plans. They say, “This is a place where we believe that co-housing could happen.”

There are some Scottish local authorities that are familiar with co-housing—I would say that Moray Council is one of them. Is that something that you might consider, even if the Scottish Government does not introduce legislation that says that that must be done by local authorities across the board? Might you look into that? Is that a direction of travel that volume house builders could potentially take? In Denmark, co-housing has historically been a grass-roots thing, but construction companies are now coming in and taking it forward.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

Great—thanks. We will move on to our next and final theme, which is on skills and training.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

I will now invite members to ask questions on specific policy areas, some of which we have touched on, and we will see where we get to with that, again remembering that we want recommendations for the plan.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

We are getting just a bit tight for time. I will ask Fulton MacGregor to ask his next question, which is still in the space that we are talking about.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

That must be incredibly frustrating. Fulton, do you want to continue with your questions?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

The Convener

Thank you.