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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
You can say that it is perfect as it is.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
Thanks very much for that point. It was good to hear in the previous session that the local authorities talk to each other. It would be good to have that guidance and for them to talk to each other. Certainly, people in the likes of Argyll and Bute have to go to Glasgow for hospital appointments, so it would be good to be clear on that and not to have that potential additional cost.
That concludes our questions. Thank you so much for coming this morning to share the important message about simplicity in the legislation. It was great to hear at the beginning that you are very appreciative of the collaboration with the Scottish Government and the work that has been taking place over the past year.
I suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.
11:17
Meeting suspended.
11:33
On resuming—
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
That was helpful. It is important to understand that the amount of money that COSLA requested—£750 million, which is a high amount of money—did not exist. I also recognise what you said about the request in relation to ring fencing, which we have been involved in calling for.
Our annual conversation about how the budget figures are set out has changed in scope a little. In your statement to Parliament, you used budget-to-budget comparisons, but the budget document includes autumn budget revision-to-budget comparisons. Those different comparisons tell different stories. One paints a slightly rosier picture than the other. I am concerned that that could be confusing for the public and could inhibit the transparency—which you mentioned in your opening statement—that we are looking for. Which comparison do you think gives us the baseline for council spending power next year?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
Do you feel that that is sufficient? There is confusion here.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
We will move online. Mark Griffin has some questions.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
Sorry to interrupt, Mark, but, before you go on to your next question, I see that Meghan Gallacher has indicated that she wishes to come in on this point specifically. Or not, Meghan? Do you already have your answer?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
Super. In that case, come on in with your next question, Mark.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
That would be great—thank you.
As that concludes our discussion, I thank the cabinet secretary and officials very much for coming to talk to us about the budget. It has been very useful.
That concludes the public part of our meeting, and we now move into private.
12:47
Meeting continued in private until 13:05.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
Good morning and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2026 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent mode. Fulton MacGregor and Mark Griffin are joining us online.
The first item on our agenda is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take items 4, 5 and 6 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 January 2026
Ariane Burgess
Do members agree that our consideration of a draft report on the climate change plan should be taken in private at a future meeting?
Members indicated agreement.